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| Quote: Standee "Which other clubs are turning a positive balance sheet year on year?'"
Positive balance sheet? What are you talking about? |
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| Quote: joolsc "Quote: joolsc "Care to list who the "managers" are at Saints, Leeds, Warrington, Bradford...shall I go on?'"
Sorry submitted it before I had finished. Your right most teams have a Head Coach that can manage situations. Agar is just an attacking coach but a very good one.'" yeah that 5 drives and a kick game is a stroke of genius! |
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| Quote: Kosh "I can guarantee that if we were [ilosing[/i money he'd get the blame for it, so the reverse only seems fair to me.
I know that some on here like to say that the board has just been lucky, but I can remember not that long ago when our commercial operations were a shambles and we were not able to generate the income that our situation made available. Whatever else he may or may not have done, Rule has overseen a transformation of that side of the business so that we now maximise income from all potential revenue streams.
The [ionly[/i area where Rule and the board have fallen short is the one most important to the fans, and that's the on-field performance. It needs sorting, but I can't see why we have to throw the baby out with the bath water to do it.'"
Bang on, I reckon. Calling for Rule's head isn't the answer - he seems to do some things very well. The on-field side of the club desperately needs sorting however, or it might start to threaten the off-field profitability. |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Positive balance sheet? What are you talking about?'"
You not good on accounts? |
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| Quote: Standee "Care to list who the "managers" are at Saints, Leeds, Warrington, Bradford...shall I go on?'"
I am not agreeing with either of you but I would point out that Tony Smith has a very good coach under him at Wire and I know for an absolute fact that Nobby does very little on the training field as he has Iestyn and Jon Sharp below him.
Some clubs have the Manager/Coach thing, some dont.
In a way you are both right. The thing for Hull is I dont think they know which model they are working too  |
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| Quote: Digger_the_Dog "I am not agreeing with either of you but I would point out that Tony Smith has a very good coach under him at Wire and I know for an absolute fact that Nobby does very little on the training field as he has Iestyn and Jon Sharp below him.
Some clubs have the Manager/Coach thing, some dont.
In a way you are both right. The thing for Hull is I dont think they know which model they are working too ![]()
We've invented a new one. We don't have a coach OR a manager. Or an assistant for that matter.
It's the future I tell thee.
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| Quote: Standee "You not good on accounts?'"
It would seem that way for some...
To those who do not understand what Standee is trying to say here it is in an easy form..
to be sucessful onfield first you have to be sucessful off the field, the current regime have proven themselves in that off field area beyond doubt and as we have seen at the start of this season the on field structure was changed to begin the rebuilding process which started with Long, Omeley and Fitzgibbon etc , this will be continued as per the long term plan they have with new players coming in on a regular basis and less effective ones leaving as was the case pre season all of which will enhance the on field ...
from basement club to champions will not happen overnight its as simple as that , look how long Warrington built bit by bit each year !!
and to be fair, think back to pre season posters on this forum who regularly warned against over expectation in one season and its clear on this forum who did not heed that warning... |
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| Quote: EXPRO "It would seem that way for some...
To those who do not understand what Standee is trying to say here it is in an easy form..
to be sucessful onfield first you have to be sucessful off the field, the current regime have proven themselves in that off field area beyond doubt and as we have seen at the start of this season the on field structure was changed to begin the rebuilding process which started with Long, Omeley and Fitzgibbon etc , this will be continued as per the long term plan they have with new players coming in on a regular basis and less effective ones leaving as was the case pre season all of which will enhance the on field ...
from basement club to champions will not happen overnight its as simple as that , look how long Warrington built bit by bit each year !!
and to be fair, think back to pre season posters on this forum who regularly warned against over expectation in one season and its clear on this forum who did not heed that warning...'"
On field success brings off field success, it seems with FC the opposite is not true. |
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| Quote: Standee "On field success brings off field success, it seems with FC the opposite is not true.'"
Can be said but you need to have the "cash to splash" in the first place and a stable foundation to attract the big guns as we did with Fitzgibbon, Omeley and Shaun... once you have those succeses on field then the whole thing trundles along quite nicely , however we have stumbled on field due to the worst injury crisis a team could have , even by our standards... |
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| Quote: EXPRO "Can be said but you need to have the "cash to splash" in the first place and a stable foundation to attract the big guns as we did with Fitzgibbon, Omeley and Shaun... once you have those succeses on field then the whole thing trundles along quite nicely , however we have stumbled on field due to the worst injury crisis a team could have , even by our standards...'"
bollox, excuse after excuse, same as we've had for years.
Yes, injuries are a factor, but they do not exclude the failings of the coach. |
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| Quote: Standee "bollox, excuse after excuse, same as we've had for years.
Yes, injuries are a factor, but they do not exclude the failings of the coach.'"
Standee stop beating around the bush and say what you mean!  |
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Standee stop beating around the bush and say what you mean!
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