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| pathetic,pointless waste of time...mr agar is staying put wether you like it or not...live with it...simples
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| Quote: forevafaithful "pathetic,pointless waste of time...mr agar is staying put wether you like it or not...live with it...simples'"
calling him 'Mr Agar' implies you have some kind of respect
for him, surely you aren't that simple minded?
I get tired of hearing all this 'he's a nice guy' nonsense even when people are condemning him... My friends would assure you all that i'm a nice guy who means well but it doesn't mean I have any business coaching a professional rugby team... I really wouldn't employ Agar to wash my car...
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| Quote: forevafaithful "pathetic,pointless waste of time...mr agar is staying put wether you like it or not...live with it...simples'"
why the hell should we live with it. We pay good money and shed loads of it. If he stays and the standards remain the same the club will suffer financially and that will not do. We can only protest this season as the cash is banked.
We had to live with the PR pre season. The fans are the "18th man". Well this 18th man will be putting in a transfer request if Agar and his team of coaches stay. I won't be transfering to a new team I will simply take my hard earned to the seaside as Mr Rule told me to do when we changed to Friday nights.
If you can't see that we are a laughing stock then you need your head testing. Not one of that team that played yesterday played with any passion for the shirt. Thats hard on some I know who have tried at times this year, but they are clearly not inspired by the best young coach in England.
Our player of the season , Whiting , is the best reader of a game in the entire squad and yet he is left to wonder around on the wing. That for me sums up all that Agar has done to the team.
Just because he has just signed a new contract does not mean that we can't grow some and demand his removal. Its a simple matter of get rid soon or realise the anger of the fans in Jan 2011 when season ticket sales and shirt sales diminish.
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| Does anyone know the date of the next fans forum? I'd like to be at that one!
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| Quote: hfc herts "2points against Quins and we would be top 5 with players apparently getting back to fitness. A week off next week and then Cats and Tigers away to come and we could have been looking at possible top four by the end of May. Its more likely to be bottom four by the end of June. '"
This in itself should have been motivation enough for the players to get their backsides in gear and, if not that, for the many fans that shelled out their hard earned to go and watch them. I'm starting to wonder if the players themselves actually have any ambition or desire because there was certainly none on show yesterday. Watched the Melbourne game this morning without knowing the score wondering how they'd play with nothing to play for. As I suspected, they were ultimate professionals and won the game convincingly. Our players could take a leaf out of their book.
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| Quote: Standee "NOTHING
^answer to the question being posed, too many at FC see something in Agar that seems to allude many others.'"
Thats the mystery of all this to me. What do the people in positions of power in FC see in Agar because it beats me and the vast majority of the people I speak to. Many of those have years of experience coaching, playing and watching the game at all levels but almost without exception are critical of his decisions, game plan and especially interchanges.
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| Quote: Trawlerman "Thats the mystery of all this to me. What do the people in positions of power in FC see in Agar because it beats me and the vast majority of the people I speak to. Many of those have years of experience coaching, playing and watching the game at all levels but almost without exception are critical of his decisions, game plan and especially interchanges.'"
Three words Cheap Yes Man
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| Quote: hfc herts "why the hell should we live with it. We pay good money and shed loads of it. If he stays and the standards remain the same the club will suffer financially and that will not do. We can only protest this season as the cash is banked.
We had to live with the PR pre season. The fans are the "18th man". Well this 18th man will be putting in a transfer request if Agar and his team of coaches stay. I won't be transfering to a new team I will simply take my hard earned to the seaside as Mr Rule told me to do when we changed to Friday nights.
If you can't see that we are a laughing stock then you need your head testing. Not one of that team that played yesterday played with any passion for the shirt. Thats hard on some I know who have tried at times this year, but they are clearly not inspired by the best young coach in England.
Our player of the season , Whiting , is the best reader of a game in the entire squad and yet he is left to wonder around on the wing. That for me sums up all that Agar has done to the team.
Just because he has just signed a new contract does not mean that we can't grow some and demand his removal. Its a simple matter of get rid soon or realise the anger of the fans in Jan 2011 when season ticket sales and shirt sales diminish.'"
Great post
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| you still aint got the balls to try get rid of mr agar...not one of you "agar out" mob
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| Quote: forevafaithful "you still aint got the balls to try get rid of mr agar...not one of you "agar out" mob'"
I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make TBH. Do you still think that Agar is doing a bang-up job and so should be retained? Or are you finally seeing the light but just think that nothing will be done?
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| i'm saying he and the players are not doing the job they are supposed to..it is afterall a team/club thing and it cannot just be pinpointed on one man..like yesterdays debacle and others before it have been mostly the players inability to play as they should...IMO..Once on the pitch its down to the players to put the effort in and yesterday they didnt..agar didnt give the ball away god knows how many times,agar didnt miss over 20 tackles did he?...it seems to be a lack of team effort not just a crap coach.
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| Quote: forevafaithful "i'm saying he and the players are not doing the job they are supposed to..it is afterall a team/club thing and it cannot just be pinpointed on one man..like yesterdays debacle and others before it have been mostly the players inability to play as they should...IMO..Once on the pitch its down to the players to put the effort in and yesterday they didnt..agar didnt give the ball away god knows how many times,agar didnt miss over 20 tackles did he?...it seems to be a lack of team effort not just a crap coach.'"
The players certainly share some of the blame, but the coach is at the centre of it IMO. We were told that the bad apples had all been released and this was HIS team. He signed them, trains them, and picks them to play. If so many are not performing, then that's really down to him at the end of the day.
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| Quote: forevafaithful "i'm saying he and the players are not doing the job they are supposed to..it is afterall a team/club thing and it cannot just be pinpointed on one man..like yesterdays debacle and others before it have been mostly the players inability to play as they should...IMO..Once on the pitch its down to the players to put the effort in and yesterday they didnt..agar didnt give the ball away god knows how many times,agar didnt miss over 20 tackles did he?...it seems to be a lack of team effort not just a crap coach.'"
Aside from the fact that this is now 'Agar's team', people who use this argument just don't understand the sport. It seems some people want to believe that playing for the club should be motivation alone for the players but the fact is 99% of all rugby players are simply mercenaries, a black and white hooped shirt and a song about a horse aren't enough to motivate them to success.
Essentially in the modern game the players play for the coach and unfortunately for us our coach is Agar, we had no chance from
the day he was appointed.
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| Already decided not to renew season pass next season if Clueless is still in charge. I will follow them at all the away games so i get to see them but the club will not get a penny from me next season. Not even for a new shirt i will just stick with this seasons.
Spoke to a lot of our supporters at Murrayfield yesterday and it is surprising how many are feeling this way and will not be renewing their passes.
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