They're not breaking the law, they're playing to the ref. Hull were trying to do the same but the mistake they were making was trying to turn the attacking player onto their backs when he had already found the floor on his front.

Maybe you need to get yourself an Aussie coach or a coach who has been trained in Australia, at least until the RFL decides to crack down on it.



I'd pretty much agree with all of that although I'd say the key to good wrestling technique is not how long you can keep a player on the deck but how long you can keep a player off the deck.

Well said. Too much room for interpretation now. There's a set of laws just stick to them. Would have thought that would be easier for the refs than not.

Because the teams that a wrestling well now are playing to the refs, if the refs cut the amount of time allowed in a tackle these teams would adjust to it without any problems. FWIW I think they should

Perhaps all this moral high ground is a bit rich from someone whose supporters booed every tackle we made just to pressurise the ref.

I am no more responsible for some of my fans doing that than you are of some of the idiots who give your club a bad (unfair might I add) reputation, fact.

And besides. fans do that at every ground in the country mate, the Southstanders at Leeds are probably the worst for it but they aren't employed by the club so good luck to em, referees should be professional enough not to listen. I shout at my own players when they're messing around at the play the ball, I absolutely hate it. Agar is a coach and should know better its bad enough in football with manager's either saying things to refs at halftime or criticising them in the press, players aren't allowed to do it so its hardly setting a good example or creating the right mentality for the players. Daniel Anderson, Ian Millward, Justin Morgan, Brian Mclennan etc have showed in the past that moaning about refs gets you nowhere, Agar should learn from it.

I for one do not want a Aussie coach I want to see a English coach.. To coach English players to kick the ar-es of the Aussies

If an English coach can do that then thats all well and good mate, the majority of fans want the same.

One which your club, unfairly might I add, well and truly shares.

As I said earlier the reason they boo at every ground is that no one knows from one week to the next what interpretation the ref you get will be putting on the rules. there is no definitive consistant standard for holding down, simple as! We would never have won on Friday if you let us have 17 players on the field at the same time you were better than us.

But all this don't critise the ref stuff is rubbish, you have to, one of your tries came straight from a quick tap on the twenty that was at least 15 yards to the right of centre. I thought that was against the rules but obviously Mr Alibert felt he should not stop the flow of the game! that blatent disreguard for the rules frustrates the fans and no doubt the management. For me the action of all those coaches you list is down to one thing total frustration with the quality and consistancy of refereeing, it is ruining our game as a spectacle!

Just my probably outdated views of course but some that I think a few more fans who are getting fed up with standards in refereeing would agree with.

Agreed, I was using it as an analogy not as a dig.

The refs are dire at times, everyone knows that but coaches need to get together and go through the correct channels to deal with it. Consistency of refereeing is a separate issue than this for me if Agar can't see the difference between what Wigan were doing and what your players were doing then he shouldn't be a coach. Fans of every club in the country cite certain refs they feel has it in for them, on our board when the ref for the next game is announced you can guarantee the next post will be complaining, whoever it is. It achieves absolutely nothing moaning about it either as a fan or a coach but the coaches job is to make sure his team do everything they can to avoid being at the wrong side of the penalty count, your discipline in the first half at Wigan was atrocious and this needs addressing by Agar as a priority as seemingly Friday wasn't the first time you've failed to control the ruck.