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| Quote: knocker norton "They would just as they have with Kear, Sharp etc.
This wouldnt necessarily change the culture though, or could it?'"
Wholesale change seems to be the answer.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Coaches and players would definately be a start, but the culture of a club includes the board etc. I dont think they need to go but i think they need to change their behaviours such as tolerance to certain things and their visibility etc.'"
Ah. Thats the point I am getting at. By appointing a world class head coach to be the leader/head of the playing side of the business you could then change things for the better in both playing skills and attitude?
I agree about the tolerance to certain things 100%. If I was Rule I would be more active in this area even though the head coach is technically the players boss standards should be set from higher up.
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| Quote: knocker norton "Ah. Thats the point I am getting at. By appointing a world class head coach to be the leader/head of the playing side of the business you could then change things for the better in both playing skills and attitude?
I agree about the tolerance to certain things 100%. If I was Rule I would be more active in this area even though the head coach is technically the players boss standards should be set from higher up.'"
We all know that we simply need rid of Kath, she is a parasite.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Wholesale change seems to be the answer.'"
I have said on numerous occassions that the problems are deeper then just the players and coach...the whole set up needs looking at and for me the major one is the culture and purpose of the club.
No organisation can be successful if they haven't an identifiable purpose and a culture that surrounds that purpose (or objectives if you like)....the players, non playing staff, coaches and management should all then work within the culture to drive the club forwards.
I get the distinct impression that there is a mentality at the club of a groundhog day approach lacking dynamic leadership and most of all vision!
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| Quote: knocker norton "Ah. Thats the point I am getting at. By appointing a world class head coach to be the leader/head of the playing side of the business you could then change things for the better in both playing skills and attitude?
I agree about the tolerance to certain things 100%. If I was Rule I would be more active in this area even though the head coach is technically the players boss standards should be set from higher up.'"
Exactly. We already have a pretty good commerical side to the business. Our senior leaders/board is well involved in that.
Our playing side is poor, we have addressed that i believe we the shake up of the squad for next season. Linked into this is the coaching aspect which hasnt been shaken up and worries me. I would have an entire clear out there too and start fresh.
Our customer base is loyal to the product. Doesnt sound like we are far off when its summed up like this but the one key link in the chain is the coaching sadly.
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| Quote: Wollagong Way "
I get the distinct impression that there is a mentality at the club of a groundhog day approach lacking dynamic leadership and most of all vision!'"
Agree. I'd be interested to hear Rule speak passionately about where he sees the club in 5 or 10 years. I'd be interested to see if Rule has spoken passionately with the players too.
Im very concerned looking at the passion and dynamic leadership that Agar shows. Hardly inspirational.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Agree. I'd be interested to hear Rule speak passionately about where he sees the club in 5 or 10 years. I'd be interested to see if Rule has spoken passionately with the players too.
Im very concerned looking at the passion and dynamic leadership that Agar shows. Hardly inspirational.'"
Two words...
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He's about as inspirational as Custor, his victory record reads like "Great French Military battles", and they even managed to lose a civil war, against themselves!
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| Quote: shagnasty "Mr Rule, make thousands happy and bin a simply not good enough coach in Agar and replace him with Noble. These coaches like nobby are like rocking horse dung, we usually just end up with dung coaches. It would give every fc fan a lift in the off season and those fans debating weather to get a pass or not will more than likely get one without agar at the helm. James, you know it make sense.'"
THE MOST BORING ATTACKING COACH IN THE LEAGUE BRING BACK KEAR
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| Quote: Standee "Two words...
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He's about as inspirational as Custor, his victory record reads like "Great French Military battles", and they even managed to lose a civil war, against themselves!'"
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| The club have worked hard to achieve commercial (financial) success and have done well on this front. rule told me some time ago that they were looking to develop income streams to protect the club from fluctuations in on field performance and they seem to have done this to some extent.
I don't believe for a minute that they don't want a successful side on the pitch (That would, after all, result in financial pay off) however I do believe the lack of in depth knowledge of the game at the top level has led them down some blind alleys, leaving us where we are now. They really need a top quality RL person to sit on the board and operate at a strategic level (Either a top class head coach with experience of what works or a DOR with the same level of knowledge).
What we currently have is rule and co dicatating policy in an area they have little knowledge of, and leaving the day to day implementation of the operational (playing) side of things to an inexperienced manager who hasn't the skills or experience to do it.
If we had someone with experience of the pro game (playing or coaching) at board level then agar would likely not been appointed and, if he had, his deficiencies would have been highlighted very early on and something done about them.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "The club have worked hard to achieve commercial (financial) success and have done well on this front. rule told me some time ago that they were looking to develop income streams to protect the club from fluctuations in on field performance and they seem to have done this to some extent.
I don't believe for a minute that they don't want a successful side on the pitch (That would, after all, result in financial pay off) however I do believe the lack of in depth knowledge of the game at the top level has led them down some blind alleys, leaving us where we are now. They really need a top quality RL person to sit on the board and operate at a strategic level (Either a top class head coach with experience of what works or a DOR with the same level of knowledge).
What we currently have is rule and co dicatating policy in an area they have little knowledge of, and leaving the day to day implementation of the operational (playing) side of things to an inexperienced manager who hasn't the skills or experience to do it.
If we had someone with experience of the pro game (playing or coaching) at board level then agar would likely not been appointed and, if he had, his deficiencies would have been highlighted very early on and something done about them.'"
Not saying you are wrong Jake but was role does Kath play in the set up? I could be wrong but what Kath doesn't know about RL you could write on the back of a stamp with thick marker! (I'm not defending Kath by the way)
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| Quote: Wollagong Way "Not saying you are wrong Jake but was role does Kath play in the set up? I could be wrong but what Kath doesn't know about RL you could write on the back of a stamp with thick marker! (I'm not defending Kath by the way)'"
Does she? I see very little evidence of it to be honest. Who did she play for? Was she a hooker?
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14059_1449048926.jpg All existing and generally known ways to immortality can be divided into four catagories.
The way of the Fakir.
The way of the Monk.
The way of the Yogi.
The most honourable being 'The way of the FC'
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "The club have worked hard to achieve commercial (financial) success and have done well on this front. rule told me some time ago that they were looking to develop income streams to protect the club from fluctuations in on field performance and they seem to have done this to some extent.
I don't believe for a minute that they don't want a successful side on the pitch (That would, after all, result in financial pay off) however I do believe the lack of in depth knowledge of the game at the top level has led them down some blind alleys, leaving us where we are now. They really need a top quality RL person to sit on the board and operate at a strategic level (Either a top class head coach with experience of what works or a DOR with the same level of knowledge).
What we currently have is rule and co dicatating policy in an area they have little knowledge of, and leaving the day to day implementation of the operational (playing) side of things to an inexperienced manager who hasn't the skills or experience to do it.
If we had someone with experience of the pro game (playing or coaching) at board level then agar would likely not been appointed and, if he had, his deficiencies would have been highlighted very early on and something done about them.'"
Agree 100%, said this months ago about having RL nouse (sp) on the board, also if they are to stick with Agar then they need someone with great experience behind him as DoR, as alluded to earlier on another thread such as Folkes being that such person/role.
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| Quote: me 'n' our kid "Agree 100%, said this months ago about having RL nouse (sp) on the board, also if they are to stick with Agar then they need someone with great experience behind him as DoR, as alluded to earlier on another thread such as Folkes being that such person/role.'"
The dobbins have phil lowe on their board to look at the playing side of things. Very well respected around the world
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| Quote: Standee "We all know that we simply need rid of Kath, she is a parasite.'"
Don't they sponsor Rovers?
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