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| Quote: painterman "iirc correctly he took the credit.Funny how its nothing to do with him now we are on a downward slope.'"
That was the quote you stated to be correct and I didn't need to read the thread back to understand it.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "That's the point! If Agar takes the credit for getting us to Wembley last year, he can't then turn around this year and say we are failing because it's 'not his team'.'"
cos half of them dont give a to-s,and to me it looks like agar and rule have got wise to it and thats why the clear out is happening,like ive said many times weve got rid of how many coaches, but the players have always remained.
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| Quote: Airlie Birds Wing "]
That was the quote you stated to be correct and I didn't need to read the thread back to understand it.'"
Well I've explained it for you a couple of posts back now anyway.
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Fair point well made!
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| Quote: painterman "So whos team was it that got to the Cup Final last year???'"
The RFL's .
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Downtheante said: "Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him (Agar) to Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson)?":46188.jpg |
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| Quote: wolfie "cos half of them dont give a to-s,and to me it looks like agar and rule have got wise to it and thats why the clear out is happening,like ive said many times weve got rid of how many coaches, but the players have always remained.'"
But it is the Coach's job to make them give a to$$... or is he absolved of that responsibility?
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "But it is the Coach's job to make them give a to$$... or is he absolved of that responsibility?'" so if ur the coach of a team and lets says 5 people are not performing, these 5 people are going at the end of the season. Tell me how your going to motivate them?
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "That's the point! If Agar takes the credit for getting us to Wembley last year, he can't then turn around this year and say we are failing because it's 'not his team'.'"
Likewise the players involved though.
TBF I dont think Agar is saying its not his team (I know Rule has). Agar obviously has a real issue with an element at the club and this element appear to be on their way soon. I would like to see if this makes a difference because although Agar has ALOT to prove the players attitude is what really bugs me.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "But it is the Coach's job to make them give a to$$... or is he absolved of that responsibility?'"
I agree mate,but whats he suppose to do if there fine in training but dont take it out on to the pitch,my thought is half of them have no respect for him for whatever reasons.
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| Quote: BlackNwhite "so if ur the coach of a team and lets says 5 people are not performing, these 5 people are going at the end of the season. Tell me how your going to motivate them?'"
BINGO
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| Quote: wolfie "BINGO'" u do realise their answer is going to be, drop them and sling the kids in, dont you
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| Quote: BlackNwhite "so if ur the coach of a team and lets says 5 people are not performing, these 5 people are going at the end of the season. Tell me how your going to motivate them?'"
First, I'd have the common sense not to tell them they were going until as late as possible. Second, I'd make them see that they are still proffessionals with a job to do and instill some pride into them (if this failed I'd at least make them realise they are in the shop window and playing well can only help them get a move to a good club). Third, I'd use up-to-date coaching techniques and tactics to make the players believe they can win games. Fourth, I'd command the respect of the players (simple things like not calling me by my christian name) and ensure there is discipline within the squad. As far as I can see, Agar has done none of these things.
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| Quote: BlackNwhite "u do realise their answer is going to be, drop them and sling the kids in, dont you
With injuries that hasnt been possible. Maybe a few changes for Catalans but too many players coming back from long term injuries so not wise to throw them all into the team IMO.
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| Quote: wolfie "I agree mate,but whats he suppose to do if there fine in training but dont take it out on to the pitch,my thought is half of them have no respect for him for whatever reasons.'"
But then if he can't command their respect he shouldn't be coaching!
Glad we've stopped winking at each other btw, people might have got ideas!
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "First, I'd have the common sense not to tell them they were going until as late as possible. Second, I'd make them see that they are still proffessionals with a job to do and instill some pride into them (if this failed I'd at least make them realise they are in the shop window and playing well can only help them get a move to a good club). Third, I'd use up-to-date coaching techniques and tactics to make the players believe they can win games. Fourth, I'd command the respect of the players (simple things like not calling me by my christian name) and ensure there is discipline within the squad. As far as I can see, Agar has done none of these things.'" but all your answers are not going to work, if they dont care!!
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