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| Quote: Big Dave T "Why? They are both similar type of prop, Cusack is the better of the two. Dowes has been searching for form for 2 seasons now and im thinking he might not find it.
I'd have 4 props of Lauaki, Cusack, O'Meley and Moa. If Dowes is happy been backup then fair enough.'"
All the time Dowes is at Hull he'll always be a starting prop.
As for searching for form that can be pretty much said of every player at the club and i'd take issue about Cusack being better than Dowes. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "All the time Dowes is at Hull he'll always be a starting prop.'"
And that could be one of the reasons why we'll always lose the forward battle!  |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko " i'd take issue about Cusack being better than Dowes.'"
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Explain why then? |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "And that could be one of the reasons why we'll always lose the forward battle! ![]()
Because of one forward?
His stats are comparable with any prop in SL and is well thought of at Hull despite what the 'fans' might want.
Just out of interest what do you expect from your front rowers?
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| Quote: Big Dave T "
As you have said both are similar types of player. Dowes makes more metres and more tackles per match. He also finds his front better imo and gets a swifter ptb. Neither are big offloaders of tackle busters.
There is not too much between them but there is no way the Cusack is better than Dowes to the point that he is worth paying off or using just as back-up.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Because of one forward?
His stats are comparable with any prop in SL and is well thought of at Hull despite what the 'fans' might want.
Just out of interest what do you expect from your front rowers?'"
I think he is an average prop now having once been a very good prop. His stats look comparable because he plays 60-70 mins rather than the standard 40 mins. He offers us graft, which we have with Cusack. I wouldnt play 2 60 minute grafters in the squad of 17. I'd have 1 and then 3 more powerful props that need rotating.
Why should we carry a forward? 3 great props and 1 average one next season if Dowes plays for me. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "As you have said both are similar types of player. Dowes makes more metres and more tackles per match. He also finds his front better imo and gets a swifter ptb. Neither are big offloaders of tackle busters.
There is not too much between them but there is no way the Cusack is better than Dowes to the point that he is worth paying off or using just as back-up.'"
Think on average Dowes plays more minutes per match too. Disagree with all of your other points too. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Just out of interest what do you expect from your front rowers?'"
The odd tackle broken, enthusiastic attacking of the line rather than ambling up expecting a Moses style red sea parting of the defence.
Not too much to ask I think  |
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| Quote: Largeparts "The odd tackle broken, enthusiastic attacking of the line rather than ambling up expecting a Moses style red sea parting of the defence.
Not too much to ask I think ![]()
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "As you have said both are similar types of player. Dowes makes more metres and more tackles per match. He also finds his front better imo and gets a swifter ptb. Neither are big offloaders of tackle busters.
There is not too much between them but there is no way the Cusack is better than Dowes to the point that he is worth paying off or using just as back-up.'"
I like Dowes and don't want him to leave, but that comment is very wayward. Cusack is probably the best player at the club for finding his front and getting a quick play the ball. |
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| Quote: ash4hullfc "I like Dowes and don't want him to leave, but that comment is very wayward. Cusack is probably the best player at the club for finding his front and getting a quick play the ball.'"
Don't agree.
Cusack gets turned more often than not. Watch you games again. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Don't agree.
Cusack gets turned more often than not. Watch you game again. ![]()
Ever since he's arrived, he's had the best/quickest play the ball at the club. Can't agree that you think he gets turned over a lot.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Think on average Dowes plays more minutes per match too. Disagree with all of your other points too.'"
Fair enough thats your opinion.
I'd take Dowsey over Cusack everyday of the week and twice on a Sunday. |
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| Quote: ash4hullfc "Ever since he's arrived, he's had the best/quickest play the ball at the club. Can't agree that you think he gets turned over a lot.'"
Rubbish. |
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