2 points that I find amazing from reading this thread.

1. What's all this talk of Berrigan, he's walked out remember.

2. Motu had at the most 3 bad games at full back and has never lived it down despite numerous good games there, Hall continually fecks up and yet people on here defend him.

It won't "work" but it might stop Salfords half backs from working and that together with stopping their big forwards is key if the cup game is anything to go by. Let's face it , it's going to be a grind and regrettably our best chance is to stop them and then look to Manu , Horne , Whiting and Calderwood to create something wider out on the back of some repeat sets. Can't see it being pretty and we have to stop Smith and Myler.

thats kath for ya though. gary had a quick word in bed after wakefield game

I agree that Hall tends to be the only player who gets dropped etc for having a bad game but personally I think he deserves dropping after his recent displays. I'm a fan of Hall's but his attacking play is not worth the number of errors he is making in crucial areas of the pitch. Personally I would have played him on the wing but I dont think its the major travesty that some people are making out.

Hall's a confidence player, and at the moment his confidence is non-existent. It's always difficult at that point to decide whether it's better to drop him while he gets his head together or keep him in the squad and see if he can play through it.

I'd have liked to have seen him in at centre or wing where he has more experience and may feel more comfortable, but maybe he's in such a state that he's better off with some time out.

I can't help but feel that we've ruined Hall TBH. I hope I'm wrong.

Totally agree with that he's still got potential but is error prone and has cost us tries recently. Not the only one of course but he's been out of position and suffering. The whole Reardon episode was an attempt to get him out of the firing line and reduce his exposure at FB I'm sure. What he should be doing is seriously threatening both the current centres who have also been poor and have cost us tries with shoddy defensive work. I would like to see Hall in at centre very soon if Yeaman and Horne can't improve. Whiting should be played at loose forward immediately and not in the centre.

Cos theyve got it in for Thorman?

Possibly because he is beyond useless?

But he is still better than Lee at halfback.

Agreed completely, an idiotic decision

Don't agree.

Without going over old ground, Lee has a much better all round skillset than Thorman. The only area Thorman is better in is that he has a sound kicking game. Hull currently suffer from inept coaches who stick to boring percentage rugby and don't allow players to be off the cuff or expansive. Lee was one of its first victims.

in his younger days,he was a good scrum half,but i'm afraid he has been playing under jon sharp for too long,and this has made him into a boring,edgeless scrum half.he plays to the tactics given to him,short ball and let the forwards take it up(or in recent times nowhere!!!).maybe a change of coach and tactics,will bring the best out of him.

On this seasons evidence I totally disagree.