Apart from Saints, we've lost by 10,7,1,4 and 4 points in the last 5. That doesn't suggest lack of effort IMO. We're putting the effort in to stay in the arm-wrestle but don't have the nous to create the right pressure in attack or put on intelligent plays.

I would argue that the majority of the team don't put the required amount of effort in. After Friday's game I think only Washy, Berrigan, Dowes, Tickle, G Horne and Tommy Lee could have come away reasonably happy with their contribution. I may have missed one or two players, but even then it would be far from the vast majority.

I think it is a tricky one this.

IN any kind of weather does not necessarily blindly putting up with constant stupid decisions. I personally don't think I would ever just walk away, don't think that I could. However, I can understand the frustration. Something snapped in me on Friday and I am still not entirely sure what. I'll go to Salford, see what saturday brings.

I just feel, that in the Lloyd era, noone considered not following the club trhough thick and thin. There was a sense of comarardary I thought amongst the fans and players. Maybe I am wrong there. Now, I am not sure. There is a lot of bitterness and foreboding. Bad decisions. Lacklustre playing performances, something is very wrong behind the scenes I think..........

Excellent post MK.

Burnett and Calderwood were in most people's top 3. Thackray ran the ball in well. Was Yeaman's best game of late. Manu is knackered as he's being overplayed. He's an impact player. You can say that Whiting, Maloney, Hall, Radders, Broughton and Thorman weren't putting any effort in if you like, that's your opinion. My opinion is that Whiting's 2 games back from a year long lay-off, Maloney was playing only his second SL game, Hall's confidence is shot, Radders got through plenty of work, Broughton had 1 training session with the team and Thorman isn't the creator we need but you can't say he's not trying. Would the club rather have had Crocker, Lauaki, Tony, Raynor, Cusack and R Horne available? I think so. Quality is lacking on the pitch, and leadership both on and off it, but I don't think you can slate the effort. I've seen far far worse. 0-46 ring any bells?

Its not so much as a lack of effort but more of a lack of intensity and pressure. If we could cut out these silly errors we would have had far more ball and probably won all those games even playing dire rugby!

Just goes to show what we could be capable of if we actually played to our potential

Amen to that!

thats why people are monaing so much. Out of total frustration. Im sure the players feel the same too

During most games you'll see a spell were one team is seriously under the cosh. They start hanging back waiting in defence and panicking when they get the ball just trying to get to the end of the set to get a kick in. We seem to be like this for most of the game at the moment and that is down to mental preparation from the coaching staff.

it look like they have been told to defend like that though. The seem to try to hold a steady line yet not move up quickly to have any breaks in the line. While giving away a few extra yards at a time i think they trying to play the percentage of closing the half breaks out.

Terrible tictac

yet for the first 5 games we played the opposite and look what happened! Why did agar ever feel the need to change it?

id never defend like that, your just creating pressure against yourself. The other team gets a roll on makes more yards and you never dominate a tackle