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| Quote: monkeyshoes "I agree.
I'm not a fan of contested scrums in RL because they would slow the game down at the expense of the rest of the game which i'd rather be watching'"
I quite miss shouting "FEEEEDINGGGG" at ever scrum though. Still do it occasionally for nostalgia's sake.
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| Quote: Dalek "In a game where the difference between winning and losing is only small things now - I believe the forward pass is spoiling it. I dont believe both of Wigan's late tries against us were legal as the best recent example.'"
My argument is why don't we try it more often? If you can’t rely on the ref to get the decision then do it yourselves! Richard Myler and Sean O'Loughlin do the old forward pass in every game. As long as you make the ball go high and on a looping trajectory, you seem to be able to get away with it.
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| Quote: fcandy "high and on a looping trajectory, you seem to be able to get away with it.'"
we're not good at catching those, unfortunately.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Hands, it's all about the hands.'" Spot on, that's what ref's are told to look out for.
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| Quote: Standee "we're not good at catching those, unfortunately.'"
We're no good at throwing them either!
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "We're no good at throwing them either!'"
'part from that, top idea!
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| Quote: Kosh "I quite miss shouting "FEEEEDINGGGG" at ever scrum though. Still do it occasionally for nostalgia's sake.'"
I agree ....I loved contested scrums, I know a hooker who has battle scars all over his head it was a brutal affair
But has been mentioned no place for them in the modern game
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| Was never forward but how good was Sinfields pass against Wakefield.
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| Quote: Superbowl Scott "Was never forward but how good was Sinfields pass against Wakefield.'"
Awesome. Copied Danny Ward's
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| Quote: Dalek "The long miss out pass to the winger looks spectacular, but is it me, most of them look forward to me?
Barry McDermott aluded to this on Boots N All last night. In my younger days one difference between League and Union was the forward pass was rarely got away with in league. Now it is a plague of the game.
It seems the referee relies more on the position of the passers hands. I do have sympathy with the linesmen that I am judging from a stationary position (and I agree - not always in direct line) but the linesman can be running at full speed when trying to judge.
It is why I would always put away supporters at the ends of grounds, so offsides and forward passes by the home team are impossible to complain about.
In a game where the difference between winning and losing is only small things now - I believe the forward pass is spoiling it. I dont believe both of Wigan's late tries against us were legal as the best recent example.'"
I agree with you about forward passes my tin-clad friend. They are ruining the game as officials continue to turn a blind eye to them on a regular basis. I would like to see the video ref rule on them - it might mean a few tries disallowed that weren't forward but more errors would be caught than would be made in my view.
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| I don't think there are that many forward passes that go undetected (though there are some). It's just that many fans assume that if a ball travels forward relative to the point where it was passed, it is always forward pass.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I don't think there are that many forward passes that go undetected (though there are some). It's just that many fans assume that if a ball travels forward relative to the point where it was passed, it is always forward pass.'"
Which as you rightly point out is a wrong assumption. Another wrong assumption that if the passer passes the ball forward but runs like hell to get in front of the receiver before he catches it then 'momentum' means the pass can't be forward.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Which as you rightly point out is a wrong assumption. Another wrong assumption that if the passer passes the ball forward but runs like hell to get in front of the receiver before he catches it then 'momentum' means the pass can't be forward.'"
Indeed - that one is Stevo's fault. But if the player throws a ball in a backwards direction, but their own forward momentum at the time of passing carries the ball forward relative to where it was passed, the pass is still backwards. This is the mistake a lot of people make: they see where the ball was passed, and where it was received, put two and two together and come up with five.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Which as you rightly point out is a wrong assumption. Another wrong assumption that if the passer passes the ball forward but runs like hell to get in front of the receiver before he catches it then 'momentum' means the pass can't be forward.'"
In this day and age, would it not be possible to have a microchip inside the ball or some way of tracking the ball that would alert the official immediately if the ball was forward? If someone could develop a system that could do this accurately, I think they could make a bit of money. Surely there is a way of doing this already. Look at how opta track players to measure distance covered etc.
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| Quote: fcandy "In this day and age, would it not be possible to have a microchip inside the ball or some way of tracking the ball that would alert the official immediately if the ball was forward? If someone could develop a system that could do this accurately, I think they could make a bit of money. Surely there is a way of doing this already. Look at how opta track players to measure distance covered etc.'"
No, because it isn't the flight of the ball that indicates it's forward, as has alread been stated.
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