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| On another Tomkins related issue, does anyone know what the penalty for the tackle on Sam Tomkins (by Briscoe, I think), down the left hand side late on, was for. Surely if the ball has bounced you can't be done for a tackle in the air just because the defender jumps to take the ball? If so, tactics for Friday must be take the ball up and as the defence close in, leap in the air. Penalty every time
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| Its going to be really interesting to see the RFL judgement on this one. After viewing the incident it looks to me like Tomkins is aiming straight at Yeaman with the intention of causing him some damage. His elbow is clearly raised, but probably as a result of mis-timing it the contact is with Yeamans chest and not his chin which is where i reckon it was aimed.
How do you prove what his intention was though? Wigan will just argue that it was sloppy rather than malicious.
Either way he is looking at a ban, the difference will be if the RFL judge him to be malicious or reckless. For mine it was malicious and worthy of a lengthy ban but i bet he gets away with a couple of games.
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| Quote: R.B.A "Its going to be really interesting to see the RFL judgement on this one. After viewing the incident it looks to me like Tomkins is aiming straight at Yeaman with the intention of causing him some damage. His elbow is clearly raised, but probably as a result of mis-timing it the contact is with Yeamans chest and not his chin which is where i reckon it was aimed.
How do you prove what his intention was though? Wigan will just argue that it was sloppy rather than malicious.
Either way he is looking at a ban, the difference will be if the RFL judge him to be malicious or reckless. For mine it was malicious and worthy of a lengthy ban but i bet he gets away with a couple of games.'"
didn't a Hull player (Dannatt iirc) get a ban based on intent as opposed to the actual outcome of his actions once?
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| Quote: Standee "didn't a Hull player (Dannatt iirc) get a ban based on intent as opposed to the actual outcome of his actions once?'"
8 matches for breaking Hanley's jaw.
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| Quote: Standee "didn't a Hull player (Dannatt iirc) get a ban based on intent as opposed to the actual outcome of his actions once?'"
Tim Street got done for something like that once while playing for us.
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| Quote: Standee "didn't a Hull player (Dannatt iirc) get a ban based on intent as opposed to the actual outcome of his actions once?'"
I seem to remember a Hull player getting a ban for 'intent'. Tim Street springs to mind and tbf the verdict was probably right.
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| Quote: Smiggs "Tim Street got done for something like that once while playing for us.'"
To be fair, Tim Street could have been banned for intent every time he stepped onto the rugby pitch!
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| Quote: R.B.A "Its going to be really interesting to see the RFL judgement on this one. After viewing the incident it looks to me like Tomkins is aiming straight at Yeaman with the intention of causing him some damage. His elbow is clearly raised, but probably as a result of mis-timing it the contact is with Yeamans chest and not his chin which is where i reckon it was aimed.
How do you prove what his intention was though? Wigan will just argue that it was sloppy rather than malicious.
Either way he is looking at a ban, the difference will be if the RFL judge him to be malicious or reckless. For mine it was malicious and worthy of a lengthy ban but i bet he gets away with a couple of games.'"
where are you watching it?
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| I think his face shows it wasn't "sloppy". Don't think Maguire can say anything else though, tbh.
Should be at least 5 games imo, but more likely 2.
It's well known that players throughout the game see J.Tomkins as a cheap shot merchant, this just confirms it to all. Ryan Bailey is still way out in front, but Joel's not far behind.
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| Initial contact in chest or otherwise I think that is a pretty dangerous and premeditated carry and deserves a ban.
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| Noble said on Blunderside that Tomkins has a short fuse and needs to be reeled in at times , Shame really as I think he's a good player who doesn't need to resort to actions like this.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "I think his face shows it wasn't "sloppy". Don't think Maguire can say anything else though, tbh.
Should be at least 5 games imo, but more likely 2.
It's well known that players throughout the game see J.Tomkins as a cheap shot merchant, this just confirms it to all. Ryan Bailey is still way out in front, but Joel's not far behind.'"
What about the cheap shot on Sam as he lay on the ground? Fair game I suppose!
Joel will get what he deserves, but if Ganson had sent them both to the bin a minute earlier problem would have been solved!
Fair play to your team you came out to give it to us but couldnt do it for 80mins!
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| Quote: joetwizzy "where are you watching it?'"
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| Quote: B0NES "Noble said on Blunderside that Tomkins has a short fuse and needs to be reeled in at times , Shame really as I think he's a good player who doesn't need to resort to actions like this.'"
Both him and his brother have real quality. Thing is they have both been hyped so much that they think they have some sort of different rules, blinded by their own arrogance.
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