For all the armchair coaches claim the team selection was wrong and we are too light in an ageing pack (which we can't do anything about til next season but let's moan anyway) we only just fell short. Failure to handle two kicks (which was backs and not forwards) a knock on our own line (which again was a back) was ultimately our downfall.

Two uncharacteristic misses at goal by Sneyd and poor in field kicking (from youve guessed it the backs) was the reason we fell short by a margin. On another day it would or could have being oh so different.

That's not being happy to have a small loss on record or just a general happy clapped. It's being realistic and calling it how it is. I will more then anyone slate the club and players when it is warranted, not just after every loss.

I thought, that, that reposte, was fantastic why do you belittle it?Says everything that true supporters would say unbelievably eloquently. Wish my dad had had the dosh to send me to uni.
Before you say it. I’m a convinced Happy Clapper

sneyd's kicking wasn't great but he was put under a lot of pressure by warrington, something we failed to do with austin which is either a tactical error or players not following the coach's instructions. He was also invariably kicking from inside his own half because our backs were ineffective at gaining good ground out of our 20 and we didn't have enough size in the forwards to dominate the opposition. I started watching the game back today and the speed of their play the ball compared to ours was massively quicker as they were completely dominating the ruck.

We really should have won that game if we'd played anywhere near our potential but poor ball control and poor kicking put us under consistent pressure and didn't really give us a chance. The team who controlled the ball better yesterday were always likely to win and wire did that by some margin

We all are. I’ve written some harsh things on here that weren’t fair or justified. Some of them may have been lost in my dull, usually overlong posts at least.

It’s good to try remember that there’s a difference between wanting to argue and wanting to fight. I don’t always. Generally, anybody I reply to I respect, even if it is a snotty reply, and they sometimes do my head in.

I missed the start and end of the game doing other stuff, but from what I saw, it seemed to be a good contest in difficult conditions.

That's sort of what I'm saying Jake. I'm explaining how I see things. Relentless negativity to me is harmful to the club's interests just as the other side see my positivity/pragmatism as holding the club back.

You attempt to paint my posts as overly negative. Can you find one from this thread you can use as an example of what you consider me being overly negative.

I don't recall you being harsh at all. Unless I just didn't understand some of your long words.

The other main point which for me made a difference between winning or losing was the difference in the defensive line speed. Warrington as soon as we ptb they were on top of us and in our face and we very rarely had anyone steaming into a ball at pace. Where as we let Warrington ptb and conceded at least 12-15M each and every time by just standing and waiting for them. That’s how they made so much ground each set as we were just surrending field position. That’s why Warrington were more effective with their kicking game as they were more often able to put in attacking kicks under no pressure to trouble us where as Sneyd/Kelly were more often having to kick from outside their 40 line.
It’s something we’ve been guilty of since last season and it needs addressing as it seems to empty our tank and may explain why we can’t do 80 mins consistently with the effort needed to make up the ground we concede.
Warrington had the right game plan and executed it and fir the full 80 mins and deserved the win.

Also, as someone else just alluded to, we aren't very good at game management. Other teams have more patience than us and try grubbers into the in goal to get repeat sets whilst we seem anxious to score from kicks to the wing every set, even if the last tackle play isn't on for it.

Defending multiple sets on your own line is very mentally and physically draining. If we forced more repeat sets we'd wear down the opposition more.

Watch the CC semi finals of 16 and 17
Then watch Sat’s game

We are a totally different side and for me
we have to ask the question

“Has familiarity set in ?”

As you say Sneyd was kicking a lot from inside our own half due to our lack of yardage in possession but i wouldnt say he was kicking under pressure.
My criticism of Sneyds kicking on the day was he just kicked it straight into the arms of a Warrington player.
It was raining and the pitch was wet he should have been varying his kicks and using the wet pitch to kick low and hard giving the receiver something to think about when attempting to recover a wet ball from the grass, instead it was just a simple catch under no pressure as we didnt have a kick chase,
He did the same from the kick offs after their first two tries.An easy kick into their 20 instead of hard low kick across the wet turf.

Mrs B
You really dont have to explain yourself on here.
You are making yourself look a lonely and sad individual
Get off the forum and enjoy your holiday