There's no rent payable though, is there? There are central costs of maintenance, utilities, stewarding, ticketing and so on. Many of these vary with customer volumes, not simply occasions of use, surely?

Having a legal interest in a property does mean having a legal tenancy or lease agreement.

The City Council document says that Hull FC have user rights but are not tenants with a legal interest in the property. What the documents says is neither Hull City or Hull FC have any legal interest in the KC because they are not tenants.

Hull FC have a contract which is legally binding with the SMC for the use of the KC. That isn't transferable to the Council if the lease is revoked.

again, untrue.

Surely if the SMC deal is terminated, the council will use it's new leisure management entity to operate the stadium. We can't really prejudge their cost allocation mechanics.

All that would be up for negotiation. Why would Assem Allam agree to the same terms for Hull City AFC that he's got now? If he doesn't agree, how can the Council enforce a new agreement? Wouldn't the Council look at issuing long term lease agreements for both Hull FC and Hull City AFC? How would the Council ensure that the KC at least broke even?

If the Council revoke the lease then surely they won't repeat the mistakes of the past and set up something similar?

... the trouble is, "something similar" appeared to work ok until Mr Allam took over.
This is what people (well, me anyway) can't understand.

That is because there was goodwill on all sides. That has gone as was plainly obvious when the Allams evicted the sports groups from the Airco. The Allams do what is best for them as Ehab said in his interview with David Burns. If the upkeep of the KC is costing them millions each year the only way they can get out of that is by the Council revoking the lease and renegotiating a new arrangement for Hull City AFC's use of the KC. The Council become responsible for the repairs and Hull City just pay a fair rent.

Quote: Obadiah "That is because there was goodwill on all sides. That has gone as was plainly obvious when the Allams evicted the sports groups from the Airco. The Allams do what is best for them as Ehab said in his interview with David Burns. If the upkeep of the KC is costing them millions each year the only way they can get out of that is by the Council revoking the lease and renegotiating a new arrangement for Hull City AFC's use of the KC. The Council become responsible for the repairs and Hull City just pay a fair rent.'" again LIES, is your email address a.a@deluded.co.uk?

Quote: Obadiah "That is because there was goodwill on all sides. That has gone as was plainly obvious when the Allams evicted the sports groups from the Airco. The Allams do what is best for them as Ehab said in his interview with David Burns. If the upkeep of the KC is costing them millions each year the only way they can get out of that is by the Council revoking the lease and renegotiating a new arrangement for Hull City AFC's use of the KC. The Council become responsible for the repairs and Hull City just pay a fair rent.'" again LIES, is your email address a.a@deluded.co.uk?

Quote: HullFC_1865 "again LIES, is your email address No.

Quote: HullFC_1865 "again LIES, is your email address No.

How would you feel about the council taking on that level of risk?

In all seriousness it would be potentially politically tricky.

Obadiah - if the Allams wanted shot of responsibility for the stadium, wouldn't simply winding up the SMC achieve the same end?

Ooh, that is an interesting wrinkle.

Maybe new SMC owners would let city do the £10 tickets the nutter promised

Is the lease still securing a debt with the RBS?