I think there's fault on both sides here. Nobody seems tolerant of any one else's opinions any more.

Without wanting to derail the thread further, I think the intolerance is a fact of life these days. There's a real divide in our country and there doesn't seem to be any respect for a view that is different to one an individual believes. IMO social media has heightened this because you can select the views your see day to day and block out the ones that you don't like, adding to the belief that your opinion is the correct and only one.

I've been guilty of this, but realised and over the past couple of years have tried to research and understand the 'other side' to whatever the argument is.

Sneyd has been getting better and better over the past few years and it's a real pleasure to see him thrive with the help of Kelly, Connor, Shaul, and this year Westy. Expected to lose him, but it seems that there's a real desire to compete with our club at the moment which is exciting.

Seriously mate there isn't, take an objective view, always the same group, always the instigators, Barista on this occasion, although she'll accept no responsibility for her actions.

Posters like myself don't form allegiances on here or live a fictional friendship, unlike said group.

However I will defend and support others.

Due to Barista this is now how this thread has developed and been derailed.
All I did was post a non offensive, non personal reply on topic to then be insulted and belittled by her and the usual suspects.

It's constant perpetual motion with this group hence why Spegs comment is a valid one.

We are all Hull fans, who come on here to exchange views, garner gossip and hopefully enjoy the banter and conversation.

You're just being silly and a little oversensitive I think. As you say, perhaps the alcohol was a factor. Here's how I see it.

As a fanbase there's a definite bias to negativity in my opinion in the context of what the club are trying to achieve and in fact have delivered. We're not the biggest club, we certainly don't have a benefactor, we don't have assets to leverage. My view is that we're doing OK at worst, but aalctially punching above our weight to a reasonable extent. You could therefore assume a fans message board would have that as its tone, or that we'd at least choose to employ the "praise and criticise in equal measure" - your words not mine - approach.

What actually happens is we get thread upon thread when times are challenging - look at the Radford thread for example a few weeks ago when people were making outrageous claims about the damage he was doing to the club - but when things are a bit rosier - top 3 now and in the CC semi final there's nothing from this same set despite this "equal measure" fairytale..Yiu seem not to like it when this point is made, but it's true.

This notion of "bullying" is beyond precious and a bit hypocritical too if you don't mind me saying so. As said, your only posts in a week we put 4 points between us and Cas are about me. Whereas I have posted about all sorts of things - perhaps that reflects what we are interested in, I don't know. Whichever way you look at it, you could say this is closer to "bullying" but really? All that's happening is sharing of contexf which people don't like being reminded of.

As for "pack mentality" - where to start? Some people agree with my points, many more don't, but that's their choice. You and many others enjoy replaying the club's shortcomings, I prefer a more positive lens on the world and a few partially agree with this. That's fine, isn't it? I can't help others' negative bias but neither do I feel the need to be dragged down by it.

I really think folk must be tired of this - happy to continue obviously. Sneyd's value to us is exceptional in the context of alternative half backs we currently see, so I do think it was very good business by the club to keep him. Let's hope we also get another year from Kelly, in great form right now.

Great post. So much is dumbed down to binary, extreme narratives. Like you I have done a little research more into why social media perpetuates more negativity than positivity. I do find it odd conceptually that in a society where we have so many choices about what we do, where we go - people invest so much time complaining about stuff they can't control rather than just doing something else or taking positive action on something else. It's a strange & wonderful world we live in.

The loose forward point is intriguing. I like Westerman and the role he plays but do wonder whether we'll revert to a 3rd prop model. Not too many players in Joe's mould kicking around.

Not heard that term before but it's a good one. Completely agree on Watts, has great hands and would have been perfect. Gone a bit quieter on recruitment just now, maybe holding news o follow after our next loss. Has Sau been formally announced yet? Lose track with the press trailing stuff and actual announcements.

Personally I want Sneyd to continue doing what he’s doing. Leave the running and off the cuff stuff to Kelly’s and Connor.

BIG decision to be made when Carlos if fit again. Who do you go with in the centres. Connor should never be left out. Griffin makes a lot of ground. This is where the man management skills of the coaching team will be tested.

Got to be Carlos & Conor centres, Griffin on the bench.

Personally I think that would be harsh on Griffin, but I suppose thats what the coaches get paid to do, make the big calls.

Carlos defence is better than griffins but Griffin really does bring the ball out well and often gets us out of trouble doing it. His error rate seems to be low too. Doubt well have all of shaul, connor Griffin, Carlos, Kelly and sneyd fit much of the time anyway so wont be an issue

My thoughts exactly , good problem to have if all fit

aree totally with this but hey what a fantastic problem to have!

I also think we should switch connor, Kelly and sneyd around more when all 3 are playing. Bringing connor inside on occasion would cause defences some issues and confusion

A bit left field this, how about putting Sneyd in at 9 to give Houghton a ten minute breather so allow Connor and Kelly a go in the halves?