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| Quote: mjl "don't shoot the messenger but heard a rumour/story today saying radders is off to wigan and its caused unrest in the dressing room'"
Dont believe a word of it.
Radford wouldnt know what to do with a squad thats full of pace
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| Look im not in the Radford out brigade but questions to a degree can and should be asked. Why is brutality given out to youngsters but senior players can get away with bad performances ? Why haven't we replaced Ellis and Watts ?
Mini,Manu and Washbrook given extensions without performing to a high level this season. Defence as a whole not being good enough conceding 20 points at home to a side outside the 8 is considered a good effort.
I believe or want to believe Radford can change this around but questions should be asked.
Injuries aside I think alot of complacency and arrogance has bit the whole squad as a whole this season.
We couldn't get over the line the last 2 seasons to a grand final, so why we think we dont need any new faces is beyond me.
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| Quote: bonaire "Dont believe a word of it.
Radford wouldnt know what to do with a squad thats full of pace'"
Twenty four hours and six pages later and only Tarquin agrees with you
Almost every Hull fan knows that only an idiot would want Radford replacing at the end of this season.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Twenty four hours and six pages later and only Tarquin agrees with you
I don't agree with people wanting him out now, but he has an awful lot of work to do in the off season to get us on track again. There aren't very many (if any) positives to take from the last couple of months. We need a major rethink on how we go about things, because we dont have the players to go down the brute force and ignorance route anymore, amd I don't really want us to anyway.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I don't agree with people wanting him out now, but he has an awful lot of work to do in the off season to get us on track again. There aren't very many (if any) positives to take from the last couple of months. We need a major rethink on how we go about things, because we dont have the players to go down the brute force and ignorance route anymore, amd I don't really want us to anyway.'"
And I agree with you.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I don't agree with people wanting him out now, but he has an awful lot of work to do in the off season to get us on track again. There aren't very many (if any) positives to take from the last couple of months. We need a major rethink on how we go about things, because we dont have the players to go down the brute force and ignorance route anymore, amd I don't really want us to anyway.'"
Or IF the rumour is true, someone else does
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| madness to think of getting rid of Radford, last 2 years hes turned the club around and made history, this year whatever people may say its injuries what have played the main part in us being in 6th, we are not in a good place atm and cert in a rut, but lets give the bloke a break,
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| Quote: hull2524 "madness to think of getting rid of Radford, last 2 years hes turned the club around and made history, this year whatever people may say its injuries what have played the main part in us being in 6th, we are not in a good place atm and cert in a rut, but lets give the bloke a break,'"
I agree with you. He deserves a chance to prove that he can still get us performing when we arent crippled by injury. Calls for his head now are OTT. But there is no room for sentiment. Next season he should be judged on performances at the time. If we are competetive again then great, but if we continue to struggle and we keep him because of those cup wins we are making a mistake.
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| Quote: Dave K. "I'd also like to sell Abdul, think its the best move for us and him'"
I'd have him back at Rovers without question.
He was outstanding for us and also showed total commitment chasing back, saving tries and his running game was encouraged by Sheens and was a real feature.
Yes that was at championship level but he just seemed a good fit he suited us and we suited him. He talked to fans after games and never once gave the impression of being anything other than 100% red & white whilst a Rovers employee.
You don't seem to believe in him we do so yes it's the best move all round if he comes back to Craven Park.
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| Does anyone honestly think that Taylor would have signed such a long deal if Radford was leaving? Perhaps in fact its more likely that Radford has turned down Wigan already! That said I worry we have signed too many 'past masters' up for next year and as for Abdull I think you might well get your wish Mr Bobness.
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Does anyone honestly think that Taylor would have signed such a long deal if Radford was leaving? Perhaps in fact its more likely that Radford has turned down Wigan already! That said I worry we have signed too many 'past masters' up for next year and as for Abdull I think you might well get your wish Mr Bobness.'" ]
I believe he would have signed a long contract whoever the coach was when you hear him talk about Hull in interviews you know he’s not going to play for anybody else in his career so chances are he’ll be at Hull a lot longer than Radford will (not saying Radfords going anywhere soon )
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Twenty four hours and six pages later and only Tarquin agrees with you
Radford cannot have a job for life because he has won two C/C competitions.
We should be building on that not staying still.All the top 4 clubs play a different style of Rugby league to us.The game is changing but Radford doesnt seem to want to change his style.
Major mistake in retaining certain players and not refreshing the squad.Even runaway Champions St Helens have made substantial signings.
I appreciate we have had injuries but so have other clubs.
In my opinion complacency has crept in.
We all know we have attacking deficiencies in the opposition 20.Our attack is too deep making it easy to defend,we dont take the ball to the line and engage the defender (something we could learn from HKR) slow passing,poor backing up and lack of dummy runners has been evident to see week after week yet doesnt get any better.
Surely even you can see that.
What you should do is listen to Radfords interview after the HKR game
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I dont want to shift the ball I want to go through them
He seems to forget he has lost Watts (who was our best forward) and we no longer have a powerful set of forwards who put fear in the opposition
Gone are the days when we had Pritchard and Ellis coming off the bench
This current squad will have difficulty making the top eight next season if its not strengthened.We are nowhere near the current top 4 and now Huddersfield are coming good,Catalan will be strong,Wakefield we know what they can do,then add into the mix Leeds and HKR.
As interesting as they are i dont want this club to be involved in the middle eight play offs do you?
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| Abdul out, Josh Jones in?
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Twenty four hours and six pages later and only Tarquin agrees with you
Welcome the People’s poet to the debate ala Citizen Smith
I speak for myself not on behalf of all Hull fans
Radford to Wigan hasn’t made my morning for sure
What if we only win 1 match in the Super 8s ?
Remember the weekends off for the CC were going to be a massive game changer for Lee. How’s that going so far ?
Remember we played a poor bottom 4 team last night full of injuries and debutants and we were planning to restore pride
Honestly injuries or not we are so far behind on confidence it’s untrue. Who controls that ?
I think the current team could win a GF even if we sign no one
It’s a game of confidence, balls, heart , tremendous skills, master game plan and utter mental toughness.
Sound like us ?
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| Quote: pmarrow "Why haven't we replaced Ellis'"
Good luck and give me a shout if you find someone.
I'm willing to donate the first twenty quid if we all fancy a whip round?
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