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Quote: Tongan Mafia "You sound like James rule putting spin on Agars pathetic attempt to make us a top club. We have heard it isnt his team but Maguire,Smith and Brown have done wonders with what wasnt there team in much less time then Agar. And he has had players out and it isnt his fault Well the buck stops with him this year he knew about long and horne and still didnt find anyone. Although other coaches didnt have a problem when they went looking for a quality half.

The Squad isnt balanced and he buys a looseforward(and plays him 2nd rower yes we short there arnt we) when we need a half and a hooker and dont get me started with his interchanges.
I'm not trying to put spin on it or talk him up, I just think people are overreacting to a bad run, at least let's wait until we can line up a top class replacement eh?

I firmly belive we are in a better place now than we were when Agar stepped into the job, how much further he can take us I don't know, he hasn't been the unmitigated disaster that some claim.

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Is Fitz on the "payroll"?

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Quote: PAC "Is Fitz on the "payroll"?'"

No, he's brought his family over for 2 years to play for nothing.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "No, he's brought his family over for 2 years to play for nothing.'"


icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Ant he got a chrysler car thrown in for his efforts.

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Quote: gingerspice "icon_lol.gif
Yeah but only a second hand one, it used to be Paul Sculthorpe's I believe.

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Quote: jimmyfivebellies "when i was first told,i thought it was to go back to saints,but apparently,that isn't the case,as he will just pack up now!!he has said he thought he would have more input regarding coaching,as most of us were under the impression,this was meant to happen,but obv not.Don't know anything about him falling out with webster,and my saints friend,said he has never mentioned james,so admit in that respect i know nothing,but i believe my friend saying what she did.Gary Wheeler is on a booze warning there too(tanseyesque!!!!)'"


Are we going to have a Long-is-leaving rumour every week?

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Are we going to have a Long-is-leaving rumour every week?'"


It looks that way.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Are we going to have a Long-is-leaving rumour every week?'"


people can say what they like,but my friend told me what she knew!! and her brother use to drink with him and scully on a sunday night in st helens,and she is an honest lass so i believe what her brother has told her.

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Quote: jimmyfivebellies "people can say what they like,but my friend told me what she knew!! and her brother use to drink with him and scully on a sunday night in st helens,and she is an honest lass so i believe what her brother has told her.'"


You think he'd walk out on a well paid job? To do what?

I'm not having a go but this just sounds like the usual bollox we get when we have a bad run of results. It's only a week since Long was alleged to have chucked it at half time and lo and behold he's in the squad for tomorrow.

If he is so ed off why is he playing tomorrow? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I disagree, I think he's been judged on the last 10 years. Many Hull fans seem to be stuck in 2006, and think we should still be contesting finals, in reality we are not a top class side anymore, we are a side in a building phase. Agar took over the job when the side was a total mess and as far as I can see he has made steady progress whilst he's been charge. Nobody can deny that last year was a leap forward regardless of how we finished and he hasn't been given a chance yet as far as this season goes.

Fitzgibbon isn't thick, he's played for the top coaches in the best teams in the world and knows what makes a good and bad coach, he also doesn't strike me as being a liar so when he says Agar is respected and he believes in his methods I have no reason to doubt him. Let's see how we're doing at Easter and decide then whether or not he can take us any further.'"


Good post, god forbid that a coach should be judged against the standards set by the 3 coaches that preceded him icon_rolleyes.gif

Jimmy Rule will be glad to know the spin is still working in some small quarters.

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Thanks for all the kind words in this thread, I'm not used to so many people agreeing with me icon_surprised.gifops: icon_lol.gif

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Quote: garry brindley "Thanks for all the kind words in this thread, I'm not used to so many people agreeing with me icon_lol.gif to be fair your assessments are pretty much spot on and what most people are feeling right now, a win tomorrow changes nothing for me in regards to agar, I still believe we need a shake up!

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Quote: R.B.A "As team captain and a legend of the sport Fitzgibbons words carry weight and i expect a big response tomorrow from his team mates and the fans who travel.
I dont think for one minute that he is happy with some things currently going on at Hull but its his job to issue rallying cries, not to be defeatest.
For instance after the bad publicity about going straight home after Cardiff with no re-hab session and only grabbing a take-away on the way back do you think that Fitzgibbon was happy with Long writing in his HDM collumn that he was racing straight from Huddersfield to Wigan for the WCC? Unlikely, and i bet he ripped a strip off him when he read it.
Surprised its not been mentioned on here because its another small way that the players are making Agars job harder than it needs be. When you put things like that alongside Tanseys idiocy then its easy to start to have some sympathy for Agar.'"


Is it true that the club left straight after the game in cardiff with no rehab session, no meal and a stop on the way back for some fast food?

If it is then the unprofessionalism at the club is endemic and runs from top down. Smacks of penny pinching to me and no wonder we're poor on the pitch if it really is the case

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Is it true that the club left straight after the game in cardiff with no rehab session, no meal and a stop on the way back for some fast food?

If it is then the unprofessionalism at the club is endemic and runs from top down. Smacks of penny pinching to me and no wonder we're poor on the pitch if it really is the case'"




Yes it is. They did the same after Murrayfield last season aswell despite having a hotel booked. Hence some of the players texting "Agar out" on their way home. Some things dont seem to change.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "You think he'd walk out on a well paid job? To do what?

I'm not having a go but this just sounds like the usual bollox we get when we have a bad run of results. It's only a week since Long was alleged to have chucked it at half time and lo and behold he's in the squad for tomorrow.

If he is so vexed off why is he playing tomorrow?
don't shoot the messenger icon_mad.gif time will tell i suppose?

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