2006 is more than 3 years ago
2007 Majorty of season with no halfback so whats New all Im saying is Berrigan is having to BE our halfback when clearly not his forte,Horney has played in the Halves all of his career !!!
2008 Injured and Illness Granted,how many Games did berrigan play so who contributed the MOST to the FC cause berrigan got player of the year I believe.
If your going to have a pop at my post mate please READ it first.I said in the last 3 years.
Horney was and possibly could be a great player again,but Done Nothing since Cooky left as has Yeaman.
It unfortunatley underlines what a pivotal player Judas was.

Rant ? what rant ?
Opinion mate ,Mine.Oh and regardless of what counts on the cap the wages are still payed by the club if he's on 90k he's paid 90k,cap means nothing as regards costing to the club,as it is only a figure you cannot exceed.The dispensation doesn't come off the players wages just the amount against the cap.

Totally agree. It's the first season I've been disappointed with him, but there are some very understandable reasons contributing to why. Unfortunately some seem to be using the opportunity as some sort of proof for them to pin more of the [iteam[/i failings of the last 2 seasons on him. Until this year he was head and shoulders the most talented and intelligent player we had. Added to that, in his time here the so-called disinterested and unjustified waste of quota and salary who doesn't impose himself enough on games has played with more jabs than if he slept on a bed of nails, all for the team cause. But we should reward all this with a steel toe up the colon and send him back home, because he's not stunned us with his magnificence each week.

Some players really are unfairly underappreciated sometimes.



Now that [iis[/i a rant.

I was challenging your claim that Horne had been "WELL under par" even before the injuries and illness. Since the injuries and illness cover most of the last 3 years I assumed you must have been talking about longer ago. My mistake.

So basically it boils down to 2007 then? I assume that you aren't going to blame Horne for missing most of 2008 with a career-threatening neck injury, because that would be daft.

Horne has not played his entire career in the halves. And he has never been a scrum half. So having to spend most of 2007 being something that he isn't and doing it on his own goes a long way to explaining his patchy form, wouldn't you say?

So Berrigan had a better 2007 than Horne. I'd agree with that. Then again, Berrigan is a better player than Horne as witnessed by his career achievements.

That's a pretty difficult comparison!

I'm sure someone who watched him in the NRL that season could confirm.

He was playing SOO and they don't normally pick poor players.

I agree Berro was ok in 2008. The disappointing thing about him is that he seemed to impose himself on games in 20 min patches rather than consistently well. 2009 he started well and as you say injury wrote him off. 2010 he's been poor and there have been excuses for that too if people want to make them.

Overall after almost having him here for 3 years as an expensive overseas player he's been a waste of that investment imo.

But the thing is, so did our pack that season IMO. Quite often coinciding with whether Carvell was on the field/bench/treatment table at the time. Our pack was heavily dependent on him and Manu that year for go-forward with quick PTBs.

fair to say our pack has been poor for 2 years.o'meley and moa have made a difference,this season.

2009 yardage wise our pack was pretty good although not aggressive enough. 2010 our pack is pretty special. Berro is the type of player that should be having a field day in SL.

I've asked these questions before and not had an answer (at least, not one that didn't include vague, meaningless crap like 'impose himself' or 'have an impact') so I'll try again:

What hasn't Berrigan done that people expected him to do?

What hasn't he done that he did do in the NRL/Origin/Internationals?

What hasn't he done compared to, to use his closest predecessor and therefore yardstick, Swain?

Because from what I've seen of him, when he's played at hooker for us he's done almost exactly what I'd expect based on seeing plenty of him there for his former teams. And his performances stand up pretty well compared to Swain too.