Who will?

Agar, after about 6 games.

clue is in the topic title

Well, yes, but the topic had drifted somewhat since then. I couldn't work out whether he meant Whiting, Washbrook, Agar or Big Dave T.

All this talk of Whitings brain, is he really the only player to have one? Are Whiting fans honestly saying that Washy doesnt have a brain for example?

I'd take Washy every day of the week for 13. He has a far better defensive workrate, better running game, better passing game and his kicking game aint bad either.

Some of us are fans of both players.

Of course Washy has a brain but IMO Whiting reads the game better. However other aspects of Washy's game are better than Whiting.

If only we could combine their best qualities into one player we'd have a real star.

Spot on, and I'd be happy with either at 13 although IMO this is a big season for Washy to claim the shirt permanently.

Going to be hard to do that spelling fitz!
Should be 13 with fitz at prop through the middle. 2 workhorse props - Fitz and cusack, 2 go forward props - o'meley and Moa.

To be radical -
8. Fitz
9. Berro
10. O'meley
11. Whiting
12. Manu
13. Washy

14. Houghton
15. Moa
16. Lauaki
17. Cusack

www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/HU ... ticle.html "What Rich told me is, if you are playing well, you'll be in the team and if you are playing well you'll be starting" hopefully we've realised hes wasted on the bench.

www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/HU ... ticle.html "What Rich told me is, if you are playing well, you'll be in the team and if you are playing well you'll be starting" hopefully we've realised hes wasted on the bench.

No. Washy does have one, it's just not as sharp as Whiting's.



How do you know when Whiting hasn't had chance to play in that position?



Yes.



No.



Not bad close to the line, but then, neither is Whiting's.

We are comparing two very different players. To my mind, Washy is a second rower - similar to Wilkin - and Whiting is a creative, ball playing loose, the extra pivot we've been missing. It depends what you want from a 13, I suppose. If you want an extra second rower at 13, then, I'd agree, Washy is probably a better option.

It's a no brainer for me, Washy should play 13. I liken him to Sinfield at a similar age. He does have the ability to out in the workrate but is also a clever player and has good hands and a decent kicking game. He is also a leader amongst some of the younger players and imo is captaincy material.

Whiting should have had a go in that position last season but the problem I have with him there is whether or not he could cope with the amount of work he would have to put in. Personally I think it would be tough for him.

I hope very much he goes on to be as good as Sinfield and I can see the parallels you draw there. Has much work to do to achieve that with top performances on the field next season being a must.