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| Cartwright jnr signing is a bit of a gamble for a player with only around 30 top flight appearances at 27, maybe a hint of nepotism with this acquisition .
As for the Stewart, no NRL first grade games , even more of a gamble for a quota spot for a player who could be classed as a "project" . He may of course be an inspired signing , time will tell of course.
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| The recruitment is patchy at best so far. Asiata clearly the pick of the bunch. Abdul could be OK if he gets, and stays, fit, but otherwise a mix of unknown overseas lower graders, ageing players from leigh and a couple of younger fed trained who may come good or may not. 6 out of 10 so far for me..
One of the most important appointments we need to make is head of S&C. Cartwright big on fitness but he won't be doing the training himself so we need a top class person in there
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| Surely Carlos T says goodbye on a marvellous FC career and John Cartwright needs a proper marquis Centre or else we can call the recruitment light-medium weight
We used to sign Swains and Berrigans at hooker
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "Surely Carlos T says goodbye on a marvellous FC career and John Cartwright needs a proper marquis Centre or else we can call the recruitment light-medium weight
We used to sign Swains and Berrigans at hooker'"
No one makes that type of signing in SL anymore.
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| I've heard we're after the marquis of bath
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I've heard we're after the marquis of bath'"
Marquis Charles.
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "Marquis Charles.'"
He's probably still quicker than all of our backs
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| JC 10th June
“Everything we do between now and when our first game kicks off next year is about winning.”
I love that
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "JC 10th June
“Everything we do between now and when our first game kicks off next year is about winning.”
I love that'"
He goes on to say "You do that with culture. It's really important; it's about setting standards and behaviours and everyone in the business buying into them. There are a lot of little things that you've got to get right."
We've been here before!
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| The article is just a section of his announcement video on the clubs YouTube
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| Quote: EtonStreetRifle "He goes on to say "You do that with culture. It's really important; it's about setting standards and behaviours and everyone in the business buying into them. There are a lot of little things that you've got to get right."
We've been here before!'"
The key is how you go about implementing it, do you go for the chilled out uncle Tony approach of undercooking them and hoping things will come good by themselves or do you set clear boundaries from the off, get the players fitter than ever and follow through with sanctions for not meeting standards and not now down to player power.
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| Quote: EtonStreetRifle "He goes on to say "You do that with culture. It's really important; it's about setting standards and behaviours and everyone in the business buying into them. There are a lot of little things that you've got to get right."
We've been here before!'"
I think there are common themes to getting results so obviously culture is one of them. Im not sure coaching is reinventing the wheel its how you do it amongst so many variables. I think TS had the right ideas and may have got there- we'll never know. Everyone speaks highly of him. what he didnt have is the money we appear to be enjoying now. But yes that Cartwright speech could have come from TS and many other coaches
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| Quote: mwindass "The article is just a section of his announcement video on the clubs YouTube'" Almost as bad as the Rovers 'reporter' doing an article on a Clint Newton interview from 2 months ago
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| Smith would never have got it right with this disinterested group of players. You need to be highly motivated to succeed in an environment where you're left to your own devices to achieve. It worked at Leeds with their group in the mid naughties but there was no chance at hull. It needs a strict regiments instill the disciplines we need to start to adopt
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| Fully agree with JC's philosophy but I don't think we've ever managed to nail and sustain a whole club winning culture and identity. We've had some success despite some aspects of the club not being right but we've then stagnated and haven't then addressed those weak areas looking for continual improvement and that's why I think we've never really had sustained success in the Super league era. Hopefully JC will make everyone understand that the job is never done!
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