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| Quote: Faithful One "The stats don't lie!
Hadley has completed 99 tackles and missed 4 which is just under 96% success rate. Thompson has 199 tackles and 16 misses for just under 92%.
Not sure how many minutes each has played during the games though, as there may be some correlation to fatigue etc.'"
I'm a fairly big fan of Thompson in all honesty, his attacking style is big factor in this. A big-ish player with good speed and a wicked step with an eye for a gap. When he's on form he can be freakishly good in my opinion. Yes defence isn't as good as Hadley, but don't think Hadley offers anything in attack. Plus JT can play anywhere in the pack barring hooker and cover centre if need be.
Good option to have off the bench.
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| Quote: chissitt "He could pleaded not guilty instead of his early guilty plea, or he could have had he not admitted his evil deed, if you feel that strongly about the injustice he's received why don't complain about the bollox decision the panel have clearly made, I'm sure you'll meet with more success than you have with the Wakey fans.'"
Is this your first experience of the disciplinary process?
Nobody contests a 1-2 match ban if they have an EGP available, no matter how innocent or guilty they may be. The panel are incompetent and biased in equal measure and even if you have overwhelming evidence to prove your innocence they'll most likely have made up their mind before you even present it.
It's a bollox decision, but just another in a long line of bollox decisions made by a panel that hasn't been fit for purpose in decades. If you don't play for one of the favoured clubs you'll always get the $hite end of the stick. If I still got wound up by these jokers I'd have died of apoplexy years ago.
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| Quote: Bal "Best decision we could have hoped for imo, and fair enough imo. Ellis himself has admitted as much.'"
Where's he done that?
An EGP is not an admission of guilt BTW.
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| Quote: Kosh "Where's he done that?
An EGP is not an admission of guilt BTW.'"
It's kind of in the name
I know what you mean though. No point risking a 2 game ban when you guarantee the one.
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| It is bollox. You see worse than that in most games and it's only ever a penalty. Has anyone ever seen a player red carded for something like that?
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "I'm a fairly big fan of Thompson in all honesty, his attacking style is big factor in this. A big-ish player with good speed and a wicked step with an eye for a gap. When he's on form he can be freakishly good in my opinion. Yes defence isn't as good as Hadley, but don't think Hadley offers anything in attack. Plus JT can play anywhere in the pack barring hooker and cover centre if need be.
Good option to have off the bench.'"
I like him too, and I think whoever Radford goes for will do a good job. I guess Washy is guaranteed a bench spot due to Radford's public backing of his utility value, so I guess there will only be room for one of them, along with one of Pritchard, Manu or Mini and a prop on the bench.
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| Quote: Faithful One "I like him too, and I think whoever Radford goes for will do a good job. I guess Washy is guaranteed a bench spot due to Radford's public backing of his utility value, so I guess there will only be room for one of them, along with one of Pritchard, Manu or Mini and a prop on the bench.'"
Shaul
Talanoa
Yeaman
Fonua
Naughton
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Bowden
Pritchard
Manu
Washbrook/Thompson
Green
Taylor
Minichiello
Thompson/Washbrook
That would be my team. How's Tuimavave coming along, any news when he'll be back?
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Shaul
Talanoa
Yeaman
Fonua
Naughton
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Bowden
Pritchard
Manu
Washbrook/Thompson
Green
Taylor
Minichiello
Thompson/Washbrook
That would be my team. How's Tuimavave coming along, any news when he'll be back?'"
Id start taylor and have bowden at 13, also start mini, and have the tank on the bench for the start of this one
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| Quote: Kosh "Where's he done that?
An EGP is not an admission of guilt BTW.'"
An early guilty plea is not an admission of guilt? I'm honestly intrigued by your answer! How so?
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Shaul
Talanoa
Yeaman
Fonua
Naughton
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Bowden
Pritchard
Manu
Washbrook/Thompson
Green
Taylor
Minichiello
Thompson/Washbrook
That would be my team. How's Tuimavave coming along, any news when he'll be back?'"
Have a feeling Naughton will miss out and Steve Michaels back in
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| Quote: Bal "An early guilty plea is not an admission of guilt? I'm honestly intrigued by your answer! How so?'"
You're not genuinely that naive are you?
An EGP is used to ensure the minimum punishment rather than rely on the vagaries of a bent/incompetent disciplinary panel. All teams use them this way. A player's guilt or innocence has little to no bearing on the punishment he will receive so teams essentially opt out of the process by using the EGP.
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| Quote: Kosh "You're not genuinely that naive are you?
You've got to be the most condescending person I've ever come across on a forum it's a shame.
Anyway. A EGP is, factually an admission a guilt. I take your point they are used strategically by players, although I would argue that many players each week do argue their case as well. Given the Catalans game is so critically, even if you want to play guess the motive, I'd argue that Ellis knew that there was enough in it for a Grade B careless (keyword) contact to the head and admitted as much to minimise the penalty, if he had felt that there is no way it can be classified as that then he would have argued it, as he has in the past in fact.
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