with miller, I really wanted it to work out for him at FC. I remember we played cas away on tv end of last season and he showed signs there, which made me think 'this kid has something here'. had signs of being like a burrows, which would've been great.

but for one reason or another, he hasn't worked out here. but these things happen.

not a radders fan by no stretch, but he gave miller his chance, didn't do much wrong, but didn't do much right either.

good luck kid

Have heard Leigh have offered him a deal if he does settle up with you guys

Have you seen Bowden this year.....behind Westerman,our most improved forward.As for Lineham and Green..both suffered long injuries and was looking good in the last stages of the stages.Crooks..who knows what happend there

where did I "turn it into Radford out"

go on, quote me...

Maybe not a Radford out but Radford bashing as per usual,we would like to read threads without it containing Radford bashing by you

Here, Here

Shame that it's not worked out for Miller. There was genuine hope when he signed that he could be the answer to our number seven problem but it's just not happened for him.

He's had chances but unfortunately hasn't been up to it. I can barely think of a game when he's really shone for us. Widnes at home last season perhaps.

To blame Radford for Miller's failings is completely missing the point.

I was on here at the beginning of the season lambasting Radford for not giving Miller a chance and telling everyone how wrong they were for writing him off. He then got that chance and sadly failed to show the talent I thought he had. In a salary cap sport value for money is paramount, keeping somebody on a hefty, 6-figure salary who is going to be 4th choice half (at best) makes no sense whatsoever.

If miller were on the same value contract as naughton then he'd be worth keeping. As it is, he's on a pile of cash that isn't justified for what he brings to the table. Right decision to get rid but likely to have cost us in excess of 25 grand a game when he leaves

I aren't defending (B)radford, but miller is very poor in defence, & if teams send traffic at him & he gets run over all game, it is very hard for everyone involved around him, he isn't creative enough to be an exception, is he? Did he play FC around the park, or make more tries then he let defenders make him look like a lock gate? Would this ever change under any coach? Follow the rest of his career & then you can blame the landlord for not turning Miller into the next Danny Brough.

Ooh..I'm a leigh fan wandering around these boards and often visit the two hull forums for their vitality. Care to share more? For what it's worth I've only ever seen Miller on TV bit think he may have potential.

If Miller is to make a top SL SH, he will have to improve his game massively. He has a decent running game and is enthusiastic, but his defence, kicking and passing isn't good enough. In fact I would say his long and short kicking game is appalling, can hardly remember him going a decent.

Anyway forget the HDM story he has gone, agreed a pay off before the Leeds game with AP( I told east hull fan and mild rover via PM about it)

His best mate at Hull said that he could anything he wanted to be, so he must show some skills in training, not sure why he hasn't done it on the pitch, maybe attitude?

Value for money a poor signing.

Cudos to you 1865 great post.

Rarely mentioned Dave but it's his biggest failing in a position where it's critical to be at the very least competent.

Was Rankin here last season? - Thought he was a Radford signing - - - - - -