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Quote: Sebasteeno "Westerman was a panic buy to sell season tickets after every else had turned us down. We didnt actually need him as its a position we have plenty of cover in.'"


You do talk some cr@p but this is up there with your previous post!!

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Westerman was a panic buy to sell season tickets after every else had turned us down. We didnt actually need him as its a position we have plenty of cover in.'"

How do you actually know this and how do you want the club to get closer to the fans, should they have consult a fan day or operate an open door policy for anyone who wants to pop in?
Westerman is an investment in good young English talent and the board have transformed hull into a well run sustainable club. Would you prefer the boom or bust approach? The only questionable decision for me was the contract extension of Agar but you really have to get past your dislike of the board to take an objective view.

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Quote: Mrs Barista " The context here is that the majority of clubs, pretty much all including Warrington and Wigan IIRC, have notes in their accounts that the accounts are only prepared on a going concern basis because of the confirmation of ongoing support by the directors.'"


The overreaching drawback to any sugar-daddy arrangement is that nothing can be relied upon. Businesses struggle or fail, individuals get bored and look for something else to amuse them, some of the selfish buggers even die.

While it may seem to be good to have a white knight with deep pockets, to fund non-capped areas of expenditure, it is a potentially precarious and ruinous situation to be in and one I wouldn't like to see Hull FC in anytime soon.

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Ok lets look at the clubs with sugar daddys. - Saints, Wire, Wigan, Hull KR, Hudds, Leeds - all clubs striving to win things.

Now lets look at those without one - Hull FC, Wakey, Cas, Bradford - All clubs there to just make up the numbers.

I know which group of teams i want Hull FC to be in.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Ok lets look at the clubs with sugar daddys. - Saints, Wire, Wigan, Hull KR, Hudds, Leeds - all clubs striving to win things.

Now lets look at those without one - Hull FC, Wakey, Cas, Bradford - All clubs there to just make up the numbers.

I know which group of teams i want Hull FC to be in.'"

Look at the final league table from last year, then come back and tell me who we are competing with.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Ok lets look at the clubs with sugar daddys. - Saints, Wire, Wigan, Hull KR, Hudds, Leeds - all clubs striving to win things.

Now lets look at those without one - Hull FC, Wakey, Cas, Bradford - All clubs there to just make up the numbers.

I know which group of teams i want Hull FC to be in.'"

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Quote: Sebasteeno "So the general consensus is that most fans arnt interested in success but are more concerned in how much money the club makes. No wonder this club has no desire to succeed when the fans have no passion but prefer to play it safe.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Ok lets look at the clubs with sugar daddys. - Saints, Wire, Wigan, Hull KR, Hudds, Leeds - all clubs striving to win things.

Now lets look at those without one - Hull FC, Wakey, Cas, Bradford - All clubs there to just make up the numbers.

I know which group of teams i want Hull FC to be in.'"



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Quote: jordanp "What the Allams have promised city is just what football needs, I'm not sure if it's just a pipedream though, I hate city but if the Allams are genuine they seem like the best kind of owners around at the moment, talk of 10 quid tickets, share issues, sustainability etc should be music to every football supporters ears, especially when you see scum like the Glazers in charge of Manchester United or the reckless spending of some of the clubs it's refreshing, I'm not sure if they are just naive though.

Rugby league and Hull FC especially are in less need of this, the game is closer to the fans as it is and we live by our own means, has people have said if it ain't broke don't fix it, but the Allams seem genuine enough up to now.'"


I am no Man Utd fan, but I cannot understand why you would use such venom against a group of people who took an investment in a company. During their ownership they have won the Champions league and the Premier league (3 times). That company was a PLC, meaning anyone could buy shares in it. If you want someone to "hate", look not further than Louis and Martin Edwards icon_wink.gif

back OT, and the second comment highlighted. You might want to do a bit of historical digging on the Allams before you make judgement on them. Anyone who has worked for any companies based around the Docks should be aware of the Allams business ethics of a few years ago. Lets just say many companies and small business's were made to suffer at their hands.

To those who are starting to wet themselves at the first sign of interest in Hull FC, don't let your hatred of the current board cloud your judgement. Many seem to have forgotton the shining knight that was David Lloyd icon_wink.gif

I find the lack of objectivity of some on here a worry. The refusal to accept that the current board are actually doing a decent job and the tunnelled view of wanting them out despite the progress the club has made is basically vengful.

The Club is now closer to the fans than it ever has been. It runs at a modest profit meaning we are not reliant on borrowing amounts we could no longer afford to pay back. It appears some still think the directors should run the club for free icon_confused.gif

They have backed their choice of coach. Under normal circumstances this would be applauded. IMO they have got this wrong and Agar should have been given until the end of last season to prove himself.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "Ok lets look at the clubs with sugar daddys. - Saints, Wire, Wigan, Hull KR, Hudds, Leeds - all clubs striving to win things.

Now lets look at those without one - Hull FC, Wakey, Cas, Bradford - All clubs there to just make up the numbers.

I know which group of teams i want Hull FC to be in.'"


Apart from Moran at Wire, the others you quote do not get any real cash from a singal benefactor icon_wink.gif

I know we have had our differences in the past.

I see no reason why that should change, as basically your head is far to far up your own @r$e to realise whats what icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "I am no Man Utd fan, but I cannot understand why you would use such venom against a group of people who took an investment in a company. During their ownership they have won the Champions league and the Premier league (3 times). That company was a PLC, meaning anyone could buy shares in it. If you want someone to "hate", look not further than Louis and Martin Edwards

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "

The Club is now closer to the fans than it ever has been. It runs at a modest profit meaning we are not reliant on borrowing amounts we could no longer afford to pay back. It appears some still think the directors should run the club for free Agree with most of your post except this bit, the club is still so far removed from its fans.

You can have all the BBQ's you want its not quite there yet is it?

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I very much doubt the club is so awash with cash that the board take salaries to reduce the number to an "acceptable" level. The context here is that the majority of clubs, pretty much all including Warrington and Wigan IIRC, have notes in their accounts that the accounts are only prepared on a going concern basis because of the confirmation of ongoing support by the directors. FC pay hundreds of thousands in rent to the SMC, this much you can deduce from their accounts, it's hardly a gift-wrapped peppercorn rent. So in summary we have big outgoings and turn in better results than most of the competition. I don't believe that all 5 directors can be living it up at our expense, although obviously this is just an opinion, albeit with some pieces of "evidence".

Most of the other boards in SL have directors shovelling money in left right and centre. Is it so ludicrous that, if the venture is cost-neutral, that it's an interesting hobby?'"


No, it's perfectly plausible. The Hetheringtons have had some ups and downs, but I don't think anybody could say they are scared of a challenge or don't care about the sport. KH and the rest of your board have overseen a period of intial recovery and then fairly dramatic development, including the high-point of a Challenge cup triumph. Why then do you think there is such ambivalence about them? With the current exception of Wakefield most clubs' fans (judging by these forums at least) seem to have a more positive attitude towards the people in charge.
Tbh I think it'd be harsh to begrudge KH a wage - we've all got to eat and they aren't people who brought in massive wealth from outside the sport (Sheffield was set up with a few grand made selling double-glazing iirc).

I suppose if it sits in the assets column it boosts the value for any eventual sale - but £3m looks like a good deal based on your assumptions. Maybe they are just misunderstood.

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Quote: kingston droolers "Agree with most of your post except this bit, the club is still so far removed from its fans.

You can have all the BBQ's you want its not quite there yet is it?'"
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As a fan I feel it is close to the fans.

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Quote: kingston droolers "Agree with most of your post except this bit, the club is still so far removed from its fans.'"

In what way?

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