agar doesnt see that

Wow.....once in 2 years........yes Horne was guilty last night and the pass was on.......im just not a Raynor fan and dont think he is as good as you make out...but if he scores a shedload and helps us win something then i will have a big helping off pie.

Agree with Kosh's comments and furthermore, if we can provide him with a good kick - chase game there is no more dangerous in Super League IMO than Raynor in that area.

Don't think anybody is saying Calderwood isn't a good player, only that with Briscoe playing so well and Raynor coming back that he will probably be the one fighting to get this place back, and I agree. Frankly its brilliant for Hull to have competition for places at that level.

Back on the topic of Briscoe. Superb performance. That try saving tackle I think may just be one of the best I have ever seen.

Disagree, he's not as good as people want to make us believe.

Some of the "close Range" tries he has scored over the years have being insane. He's a quality finisher and more often then not comes up with the goods.

As "people", who are these people? I for one have my own set of eyes and I'm capable of making my own mind up. Frankly suggesting others have an opinion simply because its suggested to them, is somewhat insulting.

Only insulting if you chose to take it that way, Raynor is a solid, average winger (imho), the fact he is one of the best British wingers says more about the lack of development in that position than his abilities (again, imvho)

Your opinion is not valid, it was clearly suggested to you by other people.

Couldn't agree more - Briscoe's handled everything with aplomb so far, so why delay in putting him in to his favoured position? I don't think Graham Horne has done badly - to be fair I don't think anyone has done badly and I'm really enthused by such a positive start - but Calderwood must be wondering what he has to do to get a pass from him at times. Nice selection dilemma for the coach to have anyway...which certainly makes a change from last year.

As far as Raynor goes, his try scoring record is OK without being exceptional. Fifteen SL tries in the last two seasons, although he scored 29 between 2006-07. His try scoring ratio over the last four seasons was very similar to Matt Sing and before him Nathan Blacklock, although they both got far more criticism, oddly enough.

Anyway, back on topic



Tom is one of the more exciting prospects in Super League and I hope he gets an extended run in the first team, be it on the wing or in the centres.

These people being...?



Sorry, but I have seen Raynor play 100+ times for FC with my own eyes. He is an excellent player, and one of our best. IMO.

I managed to form this opinion on my own, unless you are suggesting I was unduly influenced by the subliminal message "Raynor is a top player" that is hidden in the recording of Old Faithful played at home games.