That's a fair point and that's the difference between you and Bonaire.

Still think your post above is way over the top.

Rapana, Seizer and Asiata are good signings.

Holmes and Cartwright are better than we have.

Cust is miles better than Smith.

Hardaker is a smart signing, robust, string and still performing at a high level

Definitely weak at centre, hope Walker stays.

Hopefully we get better value out of Ashworth and Sao.

Looking forward to the team bern fitter and more robust with a new backroom staff.

Exciting to see what Cartwright amd Last can do.

Definite doubts about the team.

But still think we are in a much better place than 12 months ago, on and off the field.

Fair points. In isolation nine of the signings are particularly bad, it's just the number of higher risk signings. Shirt or bust probably next year. We could finish as high as 8th but more likely 11th or 12th. I doubt we'll have our first choice half's playing together very often

Wait until after the forum with Adam Pearson and Myler when they promote all the new exciting signings.
No doubt after that there will be some on here taken in and think we will be a top four team next season

Jake the peg-
Insulting folk as deluded as it differs from your perspective. Very mature..
Myler and Cartwright have played top level rugby league. So based on your logic and bonaires logic you’re labelling them also as deluded in signing these players.
Like I said before , if we can bring in a good quality middle then we’ve got a squad good enough to compete top 6.
Rapana played regular top Nrl.
Ryan hall same age yet failed in Nrl but he was a driving force behind kr resurgence.
to write him off when Cartwright has seen more of him than you have ..?
Myler and Cartwright are putting their reputations on the line and no doubt have given recruitment a lot of thought.
I’m looking forward to seeing how the team goes next season.

I said you're deluded because you think mylers RL equivalent of the dirty dozen will go well next season. Having read this post I must apologise as you're clearly clinically insane. Top 6?

Neither myler or Cartwright believe we'll be anywhere but bottom 4 hence they're not deluded. Our owner has come out and publicly admitted we won't win many games. No one with any knowledge of the game thinks any different. I have more chance of a threesome with sydney sweeney and Florence pugh than Hull FC have of finishing in the play offs next year

With that prediction , we might have to start calling you
“ mystic peg “.

That's quite pleasant compared tk the things I'm normally called

I don't need to talk to them, they're not stupid

Are you going?

Remember Jake doesn’t care what people think of him so you won’t see him arguing on here and trying to point score and be clever

I think that's airing a little on the side of over pessimistic.

I guess it depends on what constitutes doing well.

The pack, with an addition to go with Cartwright, Asiata and even a fit Staveley is better then we had this season.

A half/back choice of Sezer, Abdull, Cust is better then we've had all season.

To refer to Rapana as a 35 year old winger to play fullback is a bit dismissive to his quality and what he'll bring, though not untrue in what you say.

I agree in our weakness at Centre.

There's a team there, with coaching, that should push us into the lofty heights of 7th down.

That to me would be fair progress.

Interesting what the impact is if Ben Hunt leaves the Dragons, would feel a bit uneasy if we signed Hastings or Lam.

If he goes to the Titans it might free up Boyd.

Not sure if we need another thread, but as of December 1st, we can approach and sign people for the 2026 season, seems far too early to me.

Looking at our OOC list, our priority has to be Staveley and Balmforth.Also Barron amd Wainhouse.

Ashworth is an interesting one, good player, but needs to play more often for a new deal.

Sao will come off quota, so maybe worth keeping depends on how he goes.

There is a list out and there doesn't seem much on thar list to excite that is also realistic.

Hard to say this early about what we need.