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| Quote: DSJ1983 "I’m far from sold on our recruitment in general but the switch to fullback for Rapana is just natural progression in the modern game, it’s not the 70s or 80’s anymore these athletic outside backs are conditioned to play all back positions. In Aus if Cobbo goes on the open market he’ll go for marquee money for someone to play him fullback despite him only ever playing wing or centre.
Plus if Moy’s ready for a bit of game time at any point Rapana can switch back to wing or centre. As it looks like we won’t be bringing in another centre, personally I’d also look at keeping Walker to give us even more flexibility but looks like that ship has sailed for whatever reason.'"
Nothing to suggest Walker will be leaving. He was training at Total Fitness with Litten the other day.
Hopefully he will stay which as you say, will give us more flexibility
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| Quote: RockNRolla "Nothing to suggest Walker will be leaving. He was training at Total Fitness with Litten the other day.
Hopefully he will stay which as you say, will give us more flexibility'"
His agent has publicly said he thinks he’ll be leaving despite being contracted for 2025. Agents do like to agitate to get a move for a client but if you listen to interview it seemed the opposite to me, it was like for whatever reason Hull wanted to move him on. He seems a good pro and actually has a lot of quality about him so would be a no brainer for me but reckon he’ll end up at Hudds to replace Connor.
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| If walker doesn't leave then signing an nrl winger/full back is a poor decision when we're crying out for a quality centre
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "If walker doesn't leave then signing an nrl winger/full back is a poor decision when we're crying out for a quality centre'"
That's a fair point and that's the difference between you and Bonaire.
Still think your post above is way over the top.
Rapana, Seizer and Asiata are good signings.
Holmes and Cartwright are better than we have.
Cust is miles better than Smith.
Hardaker is a smart signing, robust, string and still performing at a high level
Definitely weak at centre, hope Walker stays.
Hopefully we get better value out of Ashworth and Sao.
Looking forward to the team bern fitter and more robust with a new backroom staff.
Exciting to see what Cartwright amd Last can do.
Definite doubts about the team.
But still think we are in a much better place than 12 months ago, on and off the field.
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| Quote: Dave K. "That's a fair point and that's the difference between you and Bonaire.
Still think your post above is way over the top.
Rapana, Seizer and Asiata are good signings.
Holmes and Cartwright are better than we have.
Cust is miles better than Smith.
Hardaker is a smart signing, robust, string and still performing at a high level
Definitely weak at centre, hope Walker stays.
Hopefully we get better value out of Ashworth and Sao.
Looking forward to the team bern fitter and more robust with a new backroom staff.
Exciting to see what Cartwright amd Last can do.
Definite doubts about the team.
But still think we are in a much better place than 12 months ago, on and off the field.'"
Fair points. In isolation nine of the signings are particularly bad, it's just the number of higher risk signings. Shirt or bust probably next year. We could finish as high as 8th but more likely 11th or 12th. I doubt we'll have our first choice half's playing together very often
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "People have been saying the same for the last 6 or 7 seasons. They were as deluded as you.
We're relying on a 35 year old winger playing at full back, an obese half back, another who is about 35 and 2 hookers, one of who is really a half back but not really good enough to play there and another who was kept out of Salfords team last season by 2 half backs playing hooker.
Add in the worst centre partnership in superleague and a pack of forwards who are pretty much what we had this year, Holmes and asiata apart, and I have no idea why you think we'll do well'"
Wait until after the forum with Adam Pearson and Myler when they promote all the new exciting signings.
No doubt after that there will be some on here taken in and think we will be a top four team next season
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| Jake the peg-
Insulting folk as deluded as it differs from your perspective. Very mature..
Myler and Cartwright have played top level rugby league. So based on your logic and bonaires logic you’re labelling them also as deluded in signing these players.
Like I said before , if we can bring in a good quality middle then we’ve got a squad good enough to compete top 6.
Rapana played regular top Nrl.
Ryan hall same age yet failed in Nrl but he was a driving force behind kr resurgence.
to write him off when Cartwright has seen more of him than you have ..?
Myler and Cartwright are putting their reputations on the line and no doubt have given recruitment a lot of thought.
I’m looking forward to seeing how the team goes next season.
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| Quote: boardwalkempire7 "Jake the peg-
Insulting folk as deluded as it differs from your perspective. Very mature..
Myler and Cartwright have played top level rugby league. So based on your logic and bonaires logic you’re labelling them also as deluded in signing these players.
Like I said before , if we can bring in a good quality middle then we’ve got a squad good enough to compete top 6.
Rapana played regular top Nrl.
Ryan hall same age yet failed in Nrl but he was a driving force behind kr resurgence.
to write him off when Cartwright has seen more of him than you have ..?
Myler and Cartwright are putting their reputations on the line and no doubt have given recruitment a lot of thought.
I’m looking forward to seeing how the team goes next season.'"
I said you're deluded because you think mylers RL equivalent of the dirty dozen will go well next season. Having read this post I must apologise as you're clearly clinically insane. Top 6?
Neither myler or Cartwright believe we'll be anywhere but bottom 4 hence they're not deluded. Our owner has come out and publicly admitted we won't win many games. No one with any knowledge of the game thinks any different. I have more chance of a threesome with sydney sweeney and Florence pugh than Hull FC have of finishing in the play offs next year
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Fair points. In isolation nine of the signings are particularly bad, it's just the number of higher risk signings. Shirt or bust probably next year. We could finish as high as 8th but more likely 11th or 12th. I doubt we'll have our first choice half's playing together very often'"
With that prediction , we might have to start calling you
“ mystic peg “.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I said you're deluded because you think mylers RL equivalent of the dirty dozen will go well next season. Having read this post I must apologise as you're clearly clinically insane. Top 6?
Eh so you’re saying you’ve personally spoken to Myler and Cartwright..and they confided. this to you.
I said we can compete top 6 if we can bring in another good quality middle.
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| Quote: boardwalkempire7 "With that prediction , we might have to start calling you
“ mystic peg “.'"
That's quite pleasant compared tk the things I'm normally called
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| Quote: boardwalkempire7 "Eh so you’re saying you’ve personally spoken to Myler and Cartwright..and they confided. this to you.
I said we can compete top 6 if we can bring in another good quality middle.'"
I don't need to talk to them, they're not stupid
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| Quote: bonaire "Wait until after the forum with Adam Pearson and Myler when they promote all the new exciting signings.
No doubt after that there will be some on here taken in and think we will be a top four team next season'"
Are you going?
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| Quote: boardwalkempire7 "Eh so you’re saying you’ve personally spoken to Myler and Cartwright..and they confided. this to you.
I said we can compete top 6 if we can bring in another good quality middle.'"
Remember Jake doesn’t care what people think of him so you won’t see him arguing on here and trying to point score and be clever
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| Quote: davey41 "Remember Jake doesn’t care what people think of him so you won’t see him arguing on here and trying to point score and be clever
I don't care what people think but I'm pretty sure you'll see me arguing quite a lot on here unless everyone comes around to my way of thinking. Points scoring on a forum with people I don't know? I don't think so really
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "People have been saying the same for the last 6 or 7 seasons. They were as deluded as you.
We're relying on a 35 year old winger playing at full back, an obese half back, another who is about 35 and 2 hookers, one of who is really a half back but not really good enough to play there and another who was kept out of Salfords team last season by 2 half backs playing hooker.
Add in the worst centre partnership in superleague and a pack of forwards who are pretty much what we had this year, Holmes and asiata apart, and I have no idea why you think we'll do well'"
I think that's airing a little on the side of over pessimistic.
I guess it depends on what constitutes doing well.
The pack, with an addition to go with Cartwright, Asiata and even a fit Staveley is better then we had this season.
A half/back choice of Sezer, Abdull, Cust is better then we've had all season.
To refer to Rapana as a 35 year old winger to play fullback is a bit dismissive to his quality and what he'll bring, though not untrue in what you say.
I agree in our weakness at Centre.
There's a team there, with coaching, that should push us into the lofty heights of 7th down.
That to me would be fair progress.
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| Interesting what the impact is if Ben Hunt leaves the Dragons, would feel a bit uneasy if we signed Hastings or Lam.
If he goes to the Titans it might free up Boyd.
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| Not sure if we need another thread, but as of December 1st, we can approach and sign people for the 2026 season, seems far too early to me.
Looking at our OOC list, our priority has to be Staveley and Balmforth.Also Barron amd Wainhouse.
Ashworth is an interesting one, good player, but needs to play more often for a new deal.
Sao will come off quota, so maybe worth keeping depends on how he goes.
There is a list out and there doesn't seem much on thar list to excite that is also realistic.
Hard to say this early about what we need.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Not sure if we need another thread, but as of December 1st, we can approach and sign people for the 2026 season, seems far too early to me.
Looking at our OOC list, our priority has to be Staveley and Balmforth.Also Barron amd Wainhouse.
Ashworth is an interesting one, good player, but needs to play more often for a new deal.
Sao will come off quota, so maybe worth keeping depends on how he goes.
There is a list out and there doesn't seem much on thar list to excite that is also realistic.
Hard to say this early about what we need.'"
2 centres and a front row
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| Quote: bonaire "2 centres and a front row'"
Maybe worth asking tomorrow at the forum, are you going?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Not sure if we need another thread, but as of December 1st, we can approach and sign people for the 2026 season, seems far too early to me.
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Hang on, we can start to approach contracted players for the 2026 season before the 2025 one has even begun?
That seems a bit nuts.
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| Quote: scarrie "Hang on, we can start to approach contracted players for the 2026 season before the 2025 one has even begun?
That seems a bit nuts.'"
Copying off the Aussies. I said on another thread if the likes of Balmforth start the season well we’ll have already be in a battle to keep them.
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| I’ve stayed away for a while as a lot of the time, it just feels like petty point scoring and arguing.
Thought I’d weigh in. I’d argue that some of our signings individually are steady but as a unit I’m not a fan.
Asiata, Cartwright, Hardaker & Rapana will be good additions.
I would probably take Sezer or Abdull individually but not both.
Cust could be anything be anything but a big risk and not a signing I would make. Him and Sezers quota could’ve been better used.
Sign a decent prop like Byrne would make a big impact for us. Sign a decent prop and I don’t think top 6 with a ton of luck is impossible. I’d have us 8-10 hopefully but with luck with injuries and players settling we could do better.
Funnily, a Rovers player did tell me he thinks we have recruited really well and will be the surprise package this year and a member of their coaching team told me that if we fix the atmosphere & S&C teams we will be around the play offs.
I’d hope Balmforth, Staveley & waignhouse have extensions before the end of pre season. Potentially Barron if he progresses nicely.
I’d then extend Ashworth and Sao (if non quota)
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| Wigan fan on their forum, claiming we are really pushing for Byrne.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Wigan fan on there forum, claiming we are really pushing for Byrne.'"
He’s what we need:
1. From a winning Culture
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3. Can bust a line & offload.
Someone’s just changed his Wiki, got to be someone here looking for a nibble, surely
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