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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: Hullrealist "It’s the fans that got him sacked. He was OOC at end of season and Pearson knew he couldn’t extend him with how we’re playing. It would’ve been suicide. Subsequently he’s having to sack him with the aim of getting a new coach in to control recruitment.'"


Not so sure on that. There wasn't exactly an uprising in the stands last Saturday. On the final hooter there seemed to be a collective shrug of the shoulder and we all filed quietly back out and headed home. We seem to have reached a stage where supporters were fully expecting another hammering and simply accepted it as a pre-ordained result. There appeared to be little disquiet within the ground just an acceptance of this is what we have become.

Forums, such as this one, tend to be slightly skewed in comparison to the wider fanbase who tend to have a somewhat more ambivalent attitude to what is going on at club. The people who post on here generally have heightened passions in their opinions on the club. The more general fan tends not to be quite as worked up about things as we all do on here!!

If there is an over-riding feeling surrounding the club right now, it's one of overwhelming apathy, the like of which I don't think I have ever experienced in my time supporting the club (mid-70s). It don't recall the fanbase being this apathetic even in the 90s during the ill-fated David Lloyd era. Like I said, there seems to be a stunned acceptance of how bad we are rather than any kind of fan insurrection!!

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Shocked. Honestly thought Pearson was going to stick with him.

For a coach of Tony’s experience and success he should have made us better, or at least started showing some signs. I don’t care who the players are, a coach is there to improve the team. We are now worse.

Glad Gene’s gone, too.

Need someone who doesn’t take any , can handle pressure and motivates the team.

Massive, massive appointment this is. Happy to let Grix and Cummins have it for the rest of the season.

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Quote: BP1 "Not so sure on that.
Quote: BP1 "There wasn't exactly an uprising in the stands last Saturday. On the final hooter there seemed to be a collective shrug of the shoulder and we all filed quietly back out and headed home'"
. We seem to have reached a stage where supporters were fully expecting another hammering and simply accepted it as a pre-ordained result. There appeared to be little disquiet within the ground just an acceptance of this is what we have become.

Forums, such as this one, tend to be slightly skewed in comparison to the wider fanbase who tend to have a somewhat more ambivalent attitude to what is going on at club. The people who post on here generally have heightened passions in their opinions on the club. The more general fan tends not to be quite as worked up about things as we all do on here!!

If there is an over-riding feeling surrounding the club right now, it's one of overwhelming apathy, the like of which I don't think I have ever experienced in my time supporting the club (mid-70s). It don't recall the fanbase being this apathetic even in the 90s during the ill-fated David Lloyd era. Like I said, there seems to be a stunned acceptance of how bad we are rather than any kind of fan insurrection!!'"


To be fair most of the fans had already left well before the end!

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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "To be fair most of the fans had already left well before the end!'"


Some of us couldn't even be bothered to attend.

It was the right choice ultimately as the fanbase was going to be severely damaged as a result of him staying and the stats and hammerings don't lie.
The players now need to take a long hard look at themselves and realise their part in our demise and the damage and upset they have caused to the fans.

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hope the restructuring that Peason has mentioned includes a new CEO with a knowledge of rugby league and players valuations, Clarke must go too as he has made mistake after mistake rewarding players with silly contracts!

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Rowley and Holdbrook would my two choices, don't think Rowley will leave Salford and can't see us attracting Holdbrook without some promise of investment.

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Quote: des lawson "Sad news that agent smith and gene gone.A job well done.'"

good sense of humour like that from a red & white

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Holbrook assistant at Roosters now isn't he ?

Just why on earth he would he leave his homeland ( again ) to take on our basket case of a club.

Last time here he won everything again & again at Saints.

Fantasy land !!

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I go away for a two week holiday and come back to this! icon_lol.gif

Still gathering my thoughts together so will post again when I have caught up properly.

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Quote: al283 "Holbrook assistant at Roosters now isn't he ?

Just why on earth he would he leave his homeland ( again ) to take on our basket case of a club.

Last time here he won everything again & again at Saints.

Fantasy land !!'"


Yep, very unlikely, will probably get another NRL gig, was unfairly sacked at Titans, who have got alot worse since he left.

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Quote: al283 "Holbrook assistant at Roosters now isn't he ?

Just why on earth he would he leave his homeland ( again ) to take on our basket case of a club.

Last time here he won everything again & again at Saints.

Fantasy land !!'"

The same reason he left Sydney before..
If the offer is right..

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "Rumours new ownership announced soon'"

Who , someone like Malcolm Walker …

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Would never wish any one to lose their job, however this is the right decision. Obviously Tony didn’t come here expecting this, however despite other factors not helping his situation like reduced investment, poor recruitment and player ability/effort, you would expect a Coach to find a way to overcome most of these issues. However, basic games plans and structures were either not in place or executed and the initial buck has got to sit with the Coach.

Obviously, there may be further changes in the near future. In the mean time all eyes must stay on the players. Some have played for Hull under 4 different Coaches, with similar outcomes, poor runs and big defeats. That is not a coincidence.

I’m sure Tony never sent the players out with a game plan consisting of, keep it tight for the first 50 seconds, hit them with high shot and don’t forget to give the opposition 6 again just after a penalty. Much of that is down to the players.

I still believe this playing squad is not good enough and quite a few need to move on, some as soon as possible as they can’t be a part of the future of the club and add no value to it.

Hopefully any restructuring is good news, however let’s see what the next few days brings……..

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