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| Quote: Mild Rover "Choice between tumbleweed and towering inferno, innit?
If I ever start posting on other clubs' boards exclusively to bitch about Rovers signing their players, you have permission to shoot me.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "You know me - pessimistic tendencies.'"
Not ginger though.
Gareth Carvell is a very good signing, and I am delighted. Get Tuson in and our pack's shaping up OK.
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| Delighted with this welcome back Carvel, some grunt with pea and feka, if the halfs click we are shaping up a bit better not expecting top 4 but top 6 could be makeable now, bit of a transition year this I think
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| Quote: ccs "TUPE does allow resignation, but we'll have to wait and see.....
Quote: ccs "'" An employee has the right to object to the transfer and this has the effect of terminating their employment.
However, that termination would in most circumstances be taken to be a resignation by the employee.An objection is not treated as a dismissal unless the transfer would involve a substantial and detrimental change to their working conditions.
In those circumstances it may amount to constructive unfair dismissal.
There is no right to take redundancy in this situation
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Thats the key bit for me, Carvell objected to the transfer and effectively resigned from his contract of employment
The constructive, unfair dismissal element is irrelivant unless Carvell was looking to make a claim against the Bulls which he isn't. If Bulls did change his conditions i.e reduce his salary that would just have lent further weight to his case.
Have you sent them their car back yet Gaz? Roll on Friday.....
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| Quote: SirStan "I hope for your sake you have evidence to support this allegation, as its already been investigated by the rfl and they didnt agree with you. Perhaps you can send them this new information?'"
That is the truth he was my coach at the time, loads went on even stuff that happened to Paul I don't agree with, but like people say its happened so move on.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Was Ben Cockayne in it, kicking back, so to speak?'"
Was jason crookes in it,assault of the earth,so to speak?
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| Quote: deslawson "Was jason crookes in it,assault of the earth,so to speak?'"
The end is nigh.
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| Oh great dipstick Deslawson is back on not sure I can stand all the intelligent posts we will get now.
HDM must be slow today
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| Quote: Punos "Oh great dipstick Deslawson is back on not sure I can stand all the intelligent posts we will get now.
HDM must be slow today'"
I informed you all at 1145 yesterday carvell was in the 19 man squad, and got shouted down for that ! Its a tough school.
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| Quote: Gerrum on side ref "Mu understanding of TUPE is that the employee has to agree to it, Carvell didn't agree to be TUPE'd from OK Bulls to Bulls 2014 so effectively he resigned, don't think the Bulls have a case but we will see how it goes over the coming weeks.'"
Having just done some reading up on this it sounds like that is right on the TUPE front.
Reading the statement it sounds like Bradford are claiming he was contracted to the club rather than the parent company of OK Bulls but if the parent company went into administration then that means any companies they own also went into administration surely?
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Having just done some reading up on this it sounds like that is right on the TUPE front.
Reading the statement it sounds like Bradford are claiming he was contracted to the club rather than the parent company of OK Bulls but if the parent company went into administration then that means any companies they own also went into administration surely?'"
Not exactly. The Bulls club is not a legal entity and cannot go into administration. It's effectively a brand/product owned by OK Bulls and now owned by the newco. As such, their assertion that Carvell had a contract with the Bulls club and not the parent company is patent nonsense.
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| Quote: Kosh "Not exactly. The Bulls club is not a legal entity and cannot go into administration. It's effectively a brand/product owned by OK Bulls and now owned by the newco. As such, their assertion that Carvell had a contract with the Bulls club and not the parent company is patent nonsense.'"
Thanks for clearing that up for me Kosh. Can't see a case for Bradford here myself.
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| Just seen an article that I saw yesterday that looks as if it's been reworded to say they're suing carvell whereas yesterday they were suing Hull FC. Seems like a total mess from the Bradford end and either way they can't have much of a case.
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| Quote: the cal train "Just seen an article that I saw yesterday that looks as if it's been reworded to say they're suing carvell whereas yesterday they were suing Hull FC. Seems like a total mess from the Bradford end and either way they can't have much of a case.'"
They have no case against FC and never did, much like we never had a case against Rovers when Cooke left. I very much doubt that they can build a convincing case against Carvell either - or at least not one that makes any commercial sense to pursue.
It's just bluster. Much like our threats following the Cooke fiasco.
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| Quote: the cal train "Just seen an article that I saw yesterday that looks as if it's been reworded to say they're suing carvell whereas yesterday they were suing Hull FC. Seems like a total mess from the Bradford end and either way they can't have much of a case.'"
They need to get some proper lawyers. Their so-called "HR experts" aren't even solicitors. They may be ok for dealing with employment tribunal claims but they can't handle this sort of litigation.
I'm sure that HUll FC have nothing much to worry about and doubt Carvell has either.
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