Agree his days of second rowing are over but completely disagree with you about him otherwise.

Lee does offload and, as with any risk taking, it sometimes comes off and sometimes doesn't, but I believe he adds something to our attack. He is also a very effective defender; his tackling and work around the tackle area in the wrestle are amongst the best in our team. I believe he does his fair share of work when used, as he now is, as a prop.

And his leadership, I think he is a knowledgeable guy who is well liked and respected by his peers and the local community. Unfortunately he was skipper during two abject seasons for which I don't think he can carry the can.

Wigan, Saints, Wire and ourselves have the strongest backrows IMO.

Wigan definitely would as would Warrington IMO. Leeds is arguable as is Saints.

Compare our backs to these teams though and we're looking at having the 7th or 8th best team in the league.

And on just as many occasions they've been equally as devastating to us!



But he does have a decent late short pass as he approaches the line, which other props have benefitted from on numerous occasions.



Albeit one that he seems to switch off on a semi-regular basis.



Neither of them are, or they wouldn't be props.

The overall difference between Radford and Dowes is not much at all.

I think you're being a bit harsh mate tbh. We're 5th with a good shout a 4th, with a crippling injury list this year. We've beaten Sts (deservedly so) twice this year and they're 2nd. We have an almost fully fit squad going into the playoffs with a good chance of progressing quite far if not all the way!!

Don't write us off just yet, if in 4 weeks time we come home with the trophy do we stll have the 7/8th best team in the comp??

Have faith!!

Tomkins Harrison O'Lloughlin
Sinfield Jones-Buchanan Eastwood
Westwood Anderson Harrison
Puletua Wilkin Roby

I think our three are up there in the same class but maybe lack the ball playing ability of all but Warrington.

I don't think we have the 7/8th best team this year. I do think we would next year, we're standing still whereas Wigan (who have been the best team in the league by a mile) are bringing in 3 quality players. Saints who are above us are bringing in 2 top props. Wire have brought in the reigning man of steel.

Ok, so LMS to Saints, Hargreaves to Bulls.....who are we going to sign......

I see your point, but wholesale changes don't guarantee immediate success. Our lot will have a year under their belts of playing together and will no doubt benefit from knowing each others preferred options in any given situation!!

All i'm saying is don't write off next season before this one has even finished... Let's enjoy the playoffs and cheer the lads on in typical Hull FC fashion!!

All we missed this year is halves, nothing much else

Is Dowes still 100% coming to us?


We've signed Hargreaves so that may mean Dowes is going elsewhere.

Although I did watch a couple of games and Josh Perry was awful! He didnt take a hit up for 3 sets in a row and it was only the 9th minute. Shillington was dominating him and he was brought off after about 12mins and didnt come on again untillright near the end if at all if I remember correctly. On that performance Saints are welcome to him.

We have not finished our recruitment yet, lets wait and see. We have a good rosta, keep our halves fit and we will be around the top four again.