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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "back to back Challenge Cups, back to back on the brink of the Grand Final, AP has invested in the infrastrcture of the club long term. You simply just criticise the club at every turn.'"
read his post again, "nothing stopping", that is basically "why hasn't". Pritchard was completely overrated and overpaid. Make Kelly a "marquee" by all means.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Still Abdul and Hakim, wouldn't be suprised to see Liam Harris atHull next year.'"
not good enough yet Dave even in division 1.
We went through this before we signed Kelly everyone saying Tuimavave would be our 6 yet most people could see it wasnt his position.
When Kelly goes we need to use the quota spot and try to sign a similar running half.Abdull and Connor are not the answer especially playing with Sneyd.
Connor should be at right centre and Griffin moved into the second row.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "He hasn't criticised the club, he has stated that AP hasn't opted to utilise the marquee player ruling, apart from Pritchard, but his salary had contributions from the Bulldogs too'"
Whilst a proportion of his salary was paid by the Bulldogs, Hull still paid him enough to be able to use him as a marquee player, £175k of which counts on the cap IIRC.
The issue isn't the money IMO, but the % of cap that 1 marquee player takes up. £175k is just shy of 10% of the whole cap, could be too high a proportion for a chairman to risk on one player, which may be why the rule hasn't been utilised more in general. I think the home grown marquee player rule is used more across SL at the moment as less £ counts on the cap, proportionately a lot lower.
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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?: |
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| I think the "notional" marquee salary cap is now set at £150k (£75k if club trained), and I guess it means that promoting a £100k player to a marquee player effectively reduces your salary cap by £50k.
Obviously increasing any player's salary reduces the overall pot, but getting up to £150k (and beyond) will probably end up with one player less in the squad.
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| Quote: ccs "I think the "notional" marquee salary cap is now set at £150k (£75k if club trained), and I guess it means that promoting a £100k player to a marquee player effectively reduces your salary cap by £50k.
Obviously increasing any player's salary reduces the overall pot, but getting up to £150k (and beyond) will probably end up with one player less in the squad.'"
You're absolutely right, I've just checked the RFL's website, here are the current key dispensations
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| add in the impact on morale, £250K + (with bonus etc), most fans can expect to earn that in 25 years after tax.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "did you forget about our no.13, Josh Bowden?
I think Fash should be looked upon as a shoe in on the bench for next year if he continues his progress.
Turgut I agree needs game time, he was being used as a utility forward last year, whilst I was disappointed with his progress after getting a fairly decent run and there was some nasty niggle that was totally uncalled for if we are to continue his development then he and other need to get games ahead of senior players that are really not cutting the mustard and are in effect blocking the progress of others.'"
Who's blocking Turgut's progression?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Who's blocking Turgut's progression?'"
Only himself
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Who's blocking Turgut's progression?'"
Jordan Lane
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| Quote: DGM "Jordan Lane'"
Looks like it to me. No offence to Turgut, I like him, but our first pick back rowers are Manu, Mini and Hadley, deservedly so. After that we're into Washy, who has utility value at hooker and loads of experience, and Lane has been given his chance by Radford and leapfrogged Turgut IMO. If he were to play at centre he has Griffin, Connor, Tuimavave and Logan ahead of him, again IMO. I'm not sure who this raft of progression-blockers are.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Looks like it to me. No offence to Turgut, I like him, but our first pick back rowers are Manu, Mini and Hadley, deservedly so. After that we're into Washy, who has utility value at hooker and loads of experience, and Lane has been given his chance by Radford and leapfrogged Turgut IMO. If he were to play at centre he has Griffin, Connor, Tuimavave and Logan ahead of him, again IMO. I'm not sure who this raft of progression-blockers are.'"
So you've just agreed with Lane being 1 of them and then named the rest.
So in effect have you not answered your own question?
Yes that could all change next season with departures and arrivals.
For me Turgut hasn't shown enough to be anyway near the starting 17 yet anyway, headless chicken trying too hard springs to mind.
So not sure he is actually being blocked as alluded too but merely not taken his chance unlike Fash and Lane.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "So you've just agreed with Lane being 1 of them and then named the rest.
So in effect have you not answered your own question?
Yes that could all change next season with departures and arrivals.
For me Turgut hasn't shown enough to be anyway near the starting 17 yet anyway, headless chicken trying too hard springs to mind.
So not sure he is actually being blocked as alluded too but merely not taken his chance unlike Fash and Lane.'"
has he not taken a chance, or just not good enough for an aspiring SL side?
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| Quote: Bombed Out "So you've just agreed with Lane being 1 of them and then named the rest.
So in effect have you not answered your own question?
Yes that could all change next season with departures and arrivals.
For me Turgut hasn't shown enough to be anyway near the starting 17 yet anyway, headless chicken trying too hard springs to mind.
So not sure he is actually being blocked as alluded too but merely not taken his chance unlike Fash and Lane.'"
Not at all. The assertion was that Turgut's progression is being blocked by inadequate senior players. I agree that Lane, as a junior player promoted by Radford, is now ahead of Turgut in the pecking order.
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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "has he not taken a chance, or just not good enough for an aspiring SL side?'"
In my opinion both.
had high hopes for Turgut but when given a chance he has done nothing to show he has the ability to be a super League player.
he is out of contract at the end of the season so i think Radford will send him out on loan/DR when we have some bodies back and his is fit and depending on how well he does will determine whether he gets an extension.
On current form Championship player at best
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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "back to back Challenge Cups, back to back on the brink of the Grand Final, AP has invested in the infrastrcture of the club long term. You simply just criticise the club at every turn.'"
You're so limited you can't even grasp the fact I'm defending Pearson re marquee signings with respect to the risk factor. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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