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Quote: Standee "how much does Crooks need to bulk up, and what pace would he potentially compromise doing it?'"


With specialist athletics speed training any player can increase their speed.
With someone like Ben Crooks if he could put on 3 or 4 kilos it would not compromise his pace.
I am surprised the club doesn't employ an athletics speed coach for the pre season.

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Quote: Errlee Berd "It's difficult to look beyond this season as it seems we're in the market for a new centre for next year.

Out of those three (assuming we don't get a new centre), as they are right now I'd go with Yeaman & Sa. Like Cal says, if Crooks can add that bulk in pre-season, hopefully get some confidence back too, he'd play his way in before either of those two as he has the ability.'"


But with Yeaman and Sa we will have the slowest threequarters in Super League.
As Doyle always says there no substitute for pace.
In my opinion when a winger or centre intercepts a pass they should be able to sprint the full length of the field to score given they are already in motion which is possibly a 4 or 5 metres start.

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Quote: bonaire "With specialist athletics speed training any player can increase their speed.
With someone like Ben Crooks if he could put on 3 or 4 kilos it would not compromise his pace.
I am surprised the club doesn't employ an athletics speed coach for the pre season.'"

We've had a kicking coach for years... oh hang on

and we started a half back school...... well it is summer holidays

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Quote: bonaire "But with Yeaman and Sa we will have the slowest threequarters in Super League.
As Doyle always says there no substitute for pace.
In my opinion when a winger or centre intercepts a pass they should be able to sprint the full length of the field to score given they are already in motion which is possibly a 4 or 5 metres start.'"

Since Richie Barnett Jnr I've been of the opinion that a winger with a head start shouldn't get caught by an ageing 18 stone prop.

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This is actually old news.Radford mentioned it a couple of weeks ago on one of his interviews on Hull FC Live.
More interestingly in his interview post match Castleford he said two players would be at Doncaster yesterday,one being Ben Crooks,but Ben was the only one.
Given Miller has played there the last two weeks and Cooke was not playing,seems like He is not wanted there either.
The Doncaster fans don't rate him at all,yet want Colbon back who seemingly has been playing well for them as a second row forward but has not been available now for 3 weeks.
Anyone know anything?

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.... maybe a lack of halfbacks for the Saints game has something to do with it.

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Quote: frepneyboy "We've had a kicking coach for years... oh hang on

and we started a half back school...... well it is summer holidays'"


Whats that have to do with employing an Athletics sprint coach to increase a players pace?

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Quote: bonaire "Whats that have to do with employing an Athletics sprint coach to increase a players pace?'"

Employing "specialist" coaching not really working?

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Quote: ccs ".... maybe a lack of halfbacks for the Saints game has something to do with it.'"


Yes. Knowing our luck I wouldn't have been surprised if Miller had picked up an injury if he had played yesterday. Better to not risk him.

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Don't think Crooks can use his health as an excuse, as the club and conditioner(s) would know of it and wouldn't put forward any plan he was incapable of.

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Think there is more to it than that chaps......deleted as requested

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Quote: Snozzle "Think there is more to it than that chaps, he needs to get his top half as big as the bottom half. So he can stop the occasional attacking player'"

Are you trying to tell us he's incapable of putting bulk on due to health reasons? Doubt the club would set a plan that was impossible.

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Quote: *1865* "Are you trying to tell us he's a hermaphrodite?'"


That's an interesting one for the rumours thread...

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Let's hope it gets deleted.

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Think Crooks needs to put on a little weight but not much - Shontayne Hape or Brett Hidgson where never man mountains but it never ruined there careers. It was when Yeamo turned into the incredible hulk during Sharps time that he went rapidly down hill.

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