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| Quote: Diogenes "IMO he's had his best season for about three years.
He has good positional awareness, is good defensively, is one of the few FC players to back up the ball carrier and I was surprised at the amount of pace he had when breaking through to score his try on Friday.
The only thing that lets him down is his kicking game which remains poor, arguably too poor for a first choice SL half back.'"
Not the only thing that lets him down the main thing is that he isn't creative whatsoever.
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Not the only thing that lets him down the main thing is that he isn't creative whatsoever.'"
Not sure I understand what you mean. What can any player do creatively except:
1. Pass
2. Run
3. Kick
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| Quote: Diogenes "Not sure I understand what you mean. What can any player do creatively except
Horney doesn't creative any space or gaps. Doesn't attract players to him which make the gaps. The only 'pass' he does is a drop off. He's far too predictable and slow at everything is does, unlike the top 6's in the league. Gimme just about any other 6 in the league over Horney anyday.
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "Horney doesn't creative any space or gaps. Doesn't attract players to him which make the gaps. The only 'pass' he does is a drop off. He's far too predictable and slow at everything is does, unlike the top 6's in the league. Gimme just about any other 6 in the league over Horney anyday.'"
what about the clean breaks against saints, wigan, catalan?
tries resulted from them, maybe you just DON'T like richard horne
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| Quote: number 6 "tries resulted from them, maybe you just DON'T like richard horne'"
this isn't about liking or disliking, it's about knowing he's not good enough, which he isn't.
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| Quote: Standee "this isn't about liking or disliking, it's about knowing he's not good enough, which he isn't.'"
as many say with the right partners at 7, who would take the long kicking game over, horne does well, his short kicking game is quite good. this season he has been one of our players who have performed week in week out
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| Quote: Standee "this isn't about liking or disliking, it's about knowing he's not good enough, which he isn't.'"
Good enough for what?
He isn't an organiser and he isn't a long kicker. However play him outside an organising 7 with a kicking game on a regular basis and he is very much good enough.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Good enough for what?
He isn't an organiser and he isn't a long kicker. However play him outside an organising 7 with a kicking game on a regular basis and he is very much good enough.'"
also many are using horne as a scapegoat for the clubs failiure to sign a quality 7 in the past few seasons, the ones we did sign, long and dykes were injury prone ant thorman was just
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| Quote: PAUL M "Good enough for what?
He isn't an organiser and he isn't a long kicker. However play him outside an organising 7 with a kicking game on a regular basis and he is very much good enough.'"
so, he can't organise and he can't kick, great attributes for a half back, wonderful!
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| Quote: Standee "so, he can't organise and he can't kick, great attributes for a half back, wonderful!'"
When he is allowed to play his natural running and passing game he is a good player, especially on the fringes.
He offers a decent short kicking game near the opposition line and also kicks for the corners well when attacking the line.
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| Quote: PAUL M "When he is allowed to play his natural running and passing game he is a good player, especially on the fringes.
He offers a decent short kicking game near the opposition line and also kicks for the corners well when attacking the line.'"
I don't disagree, but a good 6 should be doing more, Horne playing at centre or fullback or lose forward and doing those things would be reasonable, but a half back should be doing so much more.
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| Quote: Standee "I don't disagree, but a good 6 should be doing more, Horne playing at centre or fullback or lose forward and doing those things would be reasonable, but a half back should be doing so much more.'"
Problem is at present he is doing ALL of it, not just the parts he should be doing!!!
alongside established guys he will be a cracking player, and to be fair has had a good season even with the injury he is carrying
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| Quote: Standee "I don't disagree, but a good 6 should be doing more, Horne playing at centre or fullback or lose forward and doing those things would be reasonable, but a half back should be doing so much more.'"
Like what?
Not all stand-offs are organisers. Alongside an organising 7 with a good kicking game Horne was good enough to help us win the CC and get us to the GF - equalling the club's try-scoring record along the way. He's been involved in most of the good stuff we've done this season. He still has plenty to offer as a running half IMO, especially as we'll have a relative abundance of creative players next season and no shortage of kickers either.
And if he doesn't measure up we have other options.
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| Quote: Standee "so, he can't organise and he can't kick, great attributes for a half back, wonderful!'"
And his step which stood him in good stead many years ago has now become very predictable and easily read by other teams, and let us not even go there with his dummy....The only assets he has imo is he is very good under the high ball also his support play although not superb at support he is the best out of a poor bunch at this task.
If I had to play him I would drop him to f/back as he is solid under the high ball.
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "And his step which stood him in good stead many years ago has now become very predictable and easily read by other teams, and let us not even go there with his dummy....The only assets he has imo is he is very good under the high ball also his support play although not superb at support he is the best out of a poor bunch at this task.
If I had to play him I would drop him to f/back as he is solid under the high ball.'"
Thats very harsh. Predictable because we have no other real options since Cooke left and he has been very isolated.
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