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| .... why do you keep repeating the same things over and over again?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
Get a life!
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| Think I'd be taken the shaggy stand on this one if i was Albert "it wasn't me"
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
The difference being that CCTV would've shown the whole incident and not just the juicy bit
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
yes, you said already.
no player from Cas has ever done the same, identical things don't happen in Nottingham each and every week, I'm sure. The lace market is all guitars and hymns of a friday evening...
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| Clearly this is unacceptable language, whatever the provocation. Perhaps the club could help in determining if he has an alcohol problem as one approach. Like every other business, they certainly ought to be focusing on “equality, diversity and safeguarding” awareness.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "This is exactly why the NRL introduced an integrity unit.
What the video shows is a player calling a woman a slut, a whore and making threats to assault her.
Of course, supporters of the club the player represents immediately look for other angles, the most ridiculous one being that it shouldn’t have been filmed.
I’m afraid there is one person responsible and accountable for his behaviour and that is Albert Kelly. If he doesn’t do it, it doesn’t get filmed. It’s really that simple. Next, we’ll be claiming we shouldn’t put people in prison because they have been filmed committing a crime on CCTV. He’s a professional sportsman, in public, making an absolute tool of himself. Of course someone’s going to film him. It’s hardly an invasion of his privacy, is it? Perhaps if he wasn’t behaving in such a foul and abusive manner, whoever has decided to film him wouldn’t have done so.
I’m afraid he only has himself to blame. Going around calling women sluts, whores and threatening to assault them was his choice and he’ll face the consequences.'"
Don't think any Hull FC fan has condoned Kellys behaviour, far from it but the pitiful whining from posters such as yourself is quite honestly pathetic. The fact todays society seems to revel in trial by social media is sadly a barometer of where standards are now.
Christ if i videoed everything I heard going about my job on a daily business I'd never stop filming. Yes Kelly has a been a total tool no denying but is it the crime of the century? NO. Stop the press 'Guy drunk gives verbal to a woman' c'mon are we a country of softies and lefty luvvies now?
He will be dealt with by the club internally and rightly so and the end of the day its a matter between Kelly and his employers.
Get off your high horse and pull your moral compass out your backside and ask yourself what was said immediately beforehand to provoke the reaction?
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| Just wonder if fans of other clubs would be as morally outraged if it was a player who was less of a threat on the pitch to them?
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| Nobody is saying that Kelly shouldn't be punished, just you demanded he was sacked or the club condones abuse to women, which is nonsense.
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| Quote: PCollinson1990 "yes, you said already.
no player from Cas has ever done the same, identical things don't happen in Nottingham each and every week, I'm sure. The lace market is all guitars and hymns of a friday evening...'"
Can’t say I remember any other players calling people sluts and whores, nope.
Nor have I heard anyone doing the same in Nottingham (though doubtless it does happen).
Of course unpleasantness happens. But just because it happens, doesn’t mean it should be condoned. I wouldn’t support any player at Cas who did the same thing.
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| Lol at the cas and rovers morons hoping and praying Albert gets banned/fined/sacked/deported/executed
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Can’t say I remember any other players calling people sluts and whores, nope.
Nor have I heard anyone doing the same in Nottingham (though doubtless it does happen).
Of course unpleasantness happens. But just because it happens, doesn’t mean it should be condoned. I wouldn’t support any player at Cas who did the same thing.'"
So why are you repeating the same guff? No one on here has condoned Kellys actions far from it but the baying mob (you being one) wanting him strung from the highest lamppost for drunkenly spouting off is over the top.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Nobody is saying that Kelly shouldn't be punished, just you demanded he was sacked or the club condones abuse to women, which is nonsense.'"
I've witnessed worse, far worse, IN the Palace of Westminster, from elected members (and believe me, some really are "members"icon_wink.gif, he should get a telling off. Had it been any other player nobody would care. Vile KR fans perpetuating a non story.
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| Quote: Chris71 "So why are you repeating the same guff? No one on here has condoned Kellys actions far from it but the baying mob (you being one) wanting him strung from the highest lamppost for drunkenly spouting off is over the top.'"
Didn’t realise I was to be honest. Might have posted roughly the same post twice thinking it was on the VT - many apologies.
I’m not in the ‘baying mob’ I don’t think. If he was my employee, he’d be dismissed. Not doing so would send out completely the wrong message to female workers in my opinion.
However, there are other options I suppose that will show that the club doesn’t condone the behaviour but allow them to keep his undoubted on-field talents.
As a wider point, I think clubs have too much of a vested interest in not addressing player misconduct. From Hull’s perspective, they aren’t going to dismiss him as we all know he’d simply sign elsewhere. That’s why the NRL introduced an independent integrity unit to deal with such matters.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Didn’t realise I was to be honest. Might have posted roughly the same post twice thinking it was on the VT - many apologies.
I’m not in the ‘baying mob’ I don’t think. If he was my employee, he’d be dismissed. Not doing so would send out completely the wrong message to female workers in my opinion.
However, there are other options I suppose that will show that the club doesn’t condone the behaviour but allow them to keep his undoubted on-field talents.
As a wider point, I think clubs have too much of a vested interest in not addressing player misconduct. From Hull’s perspective, they aren’t going to dismiss him as we all know he’d simply sign elsewhere. That’s why the NRL introduced an independent integrity unit to deal with such matters.'"
dismissed, on what grounds. He has a PRIVATE life, no COMPLAINT was made no ARREST or CAUTION.
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