we have lost a lot more than a couple.
Its the basis of our defeats including three heavy losses which is disturbing.
Radford seems to accept defeat too easily in his interviews.If that was Wane at Wigan he would be seething after the last two defeats.

Clutching at straws there unless desperation has kicked for the coach.

Possibly





Bollox.

Its not bollox.Radford is different this season in his interviews.maybe he feels more secure after winning the CC.Too calm and no fire.
Check them out on FC live
The way we have played the two previous games,one a heavy loss demands more from the coach.

Of course you know what he's saying to the players every day. He's not going to do a press interview and badmouth his team. He'll say how disappointed he and they are and that they'll look to put things right the next time.

Unless of of course you know better.

What would you like him to do in post match interviews after a defeat?
Stamp his feet up and down and wave his fist angrily?
We all know he isn't a master linguist but for me he's always come across as fairly honest and measured.
That's in the good and not so great times.
You and your co-conspirator on this board just don't like the fact he was given the job in the first place, and he's still here.

I do wonder if all this talk of peaking for the latter stages of the season has got to the players and they're just not up for it some games. We were a different side altogether in the cup game which is obviously a win at all costs game

We haven't got to the latter stages yet, but I'm not sure whether we're gonna peak for them either.

If he'd been ranting you and The Petition Kid would've been on here saying he's lost it and doesn't have the temperament.

Mrs Barista already wrote the team and the coach off and resigned them to the middle 8s which started this thread.
she's being writing the team off as early as 20 odd minutes into a match clearly having no faith in the team or the coach pretty much every single game this season.

I've said no such thing, we will be in the top 8 and still have a shot at top 4 but as I've suggested and given reason why that I don't think LR is the coach to take us forward.
I mean at least I gave a reasonable explanation and a solution here and backed the team/coach for all the season so far, more so than the coffee lady.

clearly one forum member writing the coach and the team off virtually every game and then starting a thread stating we are going to be fighting it out against toulouse et al in the M8s is far worse than what I've written in terms of pessimism and nonsense and yet some of the cuddle crew can't handle the fact one of their own has outed herself in such a negative fashion toward the club as a whole??? it must really pain you to hear her negativity every game and read threads like this writing us off despite still being 4th and a chance to go third after Monday.

If you still think Radford is the coach to take us forward to better things then that's your opinion/way of thinking, I beleive not for the reasons I've stated as he will not change his stance, is not capable of changing how we play nor admit to the areas that he clearly cannot deal with effectively.
I hope he and the team can turn things around i really do but so much of what has happened so far this year tells me he simply is not capable of that and certainly not unless he has a fully fit squad of all his top players for 95% of the season.
'petition Kid', i love it i think i'm going to use that.

Well I have never been a great fan of your posts but as regards this one I think I should pretty much agree with with what you have posted.

To rebalance a little

The tone of this thread and mid match doom comments are a bit of parody of similar extreme comments/threads over pretty much all of Radford's tenure, such as "Going backwards at an alarming rate", calling the coach a "steaming gap-toothed turd" and labelling those defending him and the club as blinkered apologists whose opinions and feelings on these points are essentially invalid.

That said the reality here is we have a very good squad and a coach who is a proven winner at playing and coaching level despite only short experience in the latter. But so do plenty of other teams. Wigan and Leeds have way more cash and better infrastructure. Cas and Salford have built incredibly well and are deservedly top. Warrington aren't disimilar to us, in fact probably favourites for a trophy 3 months ago, but are toiling. Super League is an incredibly hard competition, demanding different disciplines at different points of the year and yes that teams breaking into the top slice need some luck with injuries to do so because they don't have experience collectively of what's required to draw on. Given that, the preseason hyperbole/expectations of GF success by some were overblown. But similarly continually berating the coach for failing to look like winning the comp in the context that 11 other clubs, some with much greater resources than us, will do exactly that, just looks a bit spoilt.

To me the season comes in chunks. Firstly navigate to a safe position, i.e. Top 8 at the split. Have we done that yet? No. Are we in a bit of a slump? Er, yes. Have we got easier games coming up? Well no. We've played Widnes, Warrington and Leigh so far in return fixtures so all the top clubs ahead, Sneyd, Taylor, Fonua all out long term and all current Dream Teamers. Age catching up with the talismanic Ellis. Houghton not yet back in his form of last year. Talanoa barely played. Kelly carrying an injury. Minichiello being overplayed by necessity. So we're absolutely weaker at this point than last year, massively so, in a highly competitive league. We need to get over the line to the 8s. Anyone who thinks anything in this comp is a gimme is deluded. Hopefully we get the win in France that will go a long long way to securing safety. But nonetheless the challenges remain around doing anything in the Top 8, the second chunk, for the reasons above with the overlay of a lack of confidence currently. I personally think the current top 3,will make it, that Saints will make a charge and Wigan are, well, Wigan. This isn't defeatism or "writing off" the club, it's based on fact, injuries and direction of travel. Things can turn around quickly though, and I hope as much as anyone that they do. Obviously.

He's already took us forward and made you look stupid, have you forgotten already, or are you an amnesiac?
2016 season.
Top after regular season rounds.
Semifinal of the SL comp.
First ever Challenge Cup victory at Wembley.

Now maintaining them heights going into 2017 was gonna be a whole new ball game but I knew you were never gonna be far away as soon as it wasn't looking possible.

Ex-army?
Fook me!
I'd rather have Penelope Pitstop in the trenches alongside me if the ever hit the fan.

Ridiculous thread really. I get that its a bit tongue in cheek and I also get that you should never take anything for granted, but I would rate our chances of missing the top 8 at around 0.01%.

Beat Catalans tomorrow and top 8 is guaranteed. It would mean that we would have to lose our last 7 and Catalans would have to win 6/7, or Huddersfield win 6/8. Thats not even factoring in all the other teams that have to overtake us aswell. Even if Catalans beat us they need to find another 4 wins. The likelyhood is that we have enough already. And fwiw I'm confident we will get a result tomorrow.

Top four will be trickier, but we are still placed well enough. Atm I think Cas are the only ones nailed on for top 4. Salford are going really well but as we continue to the business end I have doubts about their squad depth. If they are lucky with injuries then they will make it, but I can see them just running out of steam when it comes down to it. Leeds are hit and miss and only have a point more than us. Wakefield have been brilliant this year, but when push comes to shove I dont think they quite have to ability to make the four. Wigan usually find a way, but have alot of injuries as usual and arent finding ways to win this time. Saints are interesting. Have they genuinely turned a corner, or is this just a new coach effect that will see their standards slip again after a few weeks? Warrington are playing no better than us and imo are too far behind now.

Glad someone's done the maths.
I guess it means that Cas, Leeds and Salford have already qualified.

As referenced above our big challenge is that our players missing for long stretches aren't the likes of Thompson and Michaels, they're our top quartile. If we win on Monday I'll start another thread about sun loungers.