So it seems we've got another "wonder boy" youngster in Shaul who is now just not good enough anymore...
Did he come back too soon? is he still; injured? or just out of favour?

After Radfords comments on Thursday about people below him not performing I am starting to wonder if he has lost the dressing room too...

As for the St's game - I think it will be close - maybe even we sneak it!!

Rankin is never a 6, surely Abdul should play there, at least he's got a top kicking game. It was embarrassing watching Rankin toil there on Friday. Lets be honest, if all we can do is roll down the park, play for territory and hope the opposition make a mistake, surely you go with Abdul who has the much better kicking game.

Injuries are fairly similar really in terms of numbers of 1st teamers missing but they are still full of pace and footballers all over the park as they showed in tough circumstances against wigan.

The ONLY thing in our favour is if they play turner again in the halves cos he looks like any of our previous halfbacks and simply doesn't know when to release the ball. He was so uncomfortable there on Friday. If wilkin had been there saints would have won that game, no doubt. That is the only crumb of comfort i can find.

Shaul does t look totally fit to me. Maybe its just a case of 2 matches in 3 days to much ?

I hope so

Going to get hammered 52-6

Two teams coming off derby defeats, two teams with injuries and both off three day turnarounds. I believe you have a chance of getting a result at Saints but it will be difficult. Realising that of course any victory will give Radford more time at the helm, a position a lot on here prefers he isn't given. Predict a close, low scoring game with home advantage seeing Saints home.

First time this season I've thought our team looks pants on paper, as well as just been pants. Saints squad still looks strong

Not expecting much tomorrow from my travels to Saints, another loss is expected and embarrassment is expected. Call me fickle but what can positives can we expect?

As bad as we've been I wouldn't rule out a win tomorrow. That game against Wigan was a pretty physical one, and the extra day of rest could make a big difference.

The question is do we have enough points in us, but if Saints are fatigued and we stay patient then even our feeble attack should get some rewards eventually.

Thinking of making the journey tomorrow by train don't know why but anyway! Is is better getting the train to Wigan and across to St Helens central or getting the train straight to St Helens Junction and walking to the ground. Anyone been this way before and how long it takes? Thanks in advance

Best I can say is that there are no bank holiday disruptions, so I'd check a BR website for more details.

Yeah its a 32 minute walk from St Helens Junction according to Google