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| Pass sales Down Interest down And if we play like this under the Landlord next year FC down. The bloke is clueless and if Pearson can't see this so is he !!!!!!
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Also fear of reprisal, being dropped/no contract renewal/being lambasted in public or amongst peer group.'"
When Radford took over one of the first things the players asked him to do was start dropping people based on form. It's a bit late for them to decide they don't like it now.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Players make mistakes not only because of brain farts and tiredness, they make mistakes through lack of leadership both on and off the pitch, lack of cohesion as a group which absolutely includes the coach. Also fear of reprisal, being dropped/no contract renewal/being lambasted in public or amongst peer group.
The performances reflect the leader, they feed from him, the buck stops with Radford in every aspect of how we perform, both tactically, physically and mentally.
it's all well and good having talent but if you do not manage/coach that talent in the correct way it just will not perform, some 'people' just won't perform under a leader whom shows they are out of their depth/clueless or just mismanage the situation, 'sportspeople' are no different to any other persons from a psyche POV. In fact sportspersons at the top end of their sport are MORE fragile mentally than comparables in other industries..but our 'coach' wouldn't have a clue about that either...'"
It's astounding how many players seem to stagnate or go backwards at Hull, isn't it? And how they seem to blossom on escape. Such indulgent smiles we exchanged as Arundel scampered over for his second today, and clasped our hands in pleasure as Jay Pitts scored too. Hope Carvell and the rest of the Hull rejects enjoy their trip to Wembley next week.
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| Quote: Kosh "When Radford took over one of the first things the players asked him to do was start dropping people based on form. It's a bit late for them to decide they don't like it now.'"
But that hasn't/isn't actually happened has it? And if through poor management 2/3-3/4 of your squad are performing badly how does dropping said poor performers (ajudged by a 'coach' who hasn't got a clue in the first instance) work out in the grand scheme of us winning games?
Is that the official party line then that the players said whomever plays badly one week gets turfed out for the next match? Because that has worked out hasn't it?
Look at those whom have being 'treated' in this fashion, it's worked wonders for their confidence and performances, in fact the whole squad has being busting a gut week in week out not to be on this underperforming rosta of shame
Actually understanding people & how to get the best out of them & the best methods to do so is the number one priority (after their welfare) if you have any thoughts about being a leader. Sadly for Radford and indeed Pearson neither seem to have an inkling about this subject matter so the technical stuff of playing rugby actually becomes immaterial
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "But that hasn't/isn't actually happened has it?'"
Hasn't it?
We've had plenty of players dropped after poor performances.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Actually understanding people & how to get the best out of them & the best methods to do so is the number one priority (after their welfare) if you have any thoughts about being a leader. Sadly for Radford and indeed Pearson neither seem to have an inkling about this subject matter so the technical stuff of playing rugby actually becomes immaterial'"
I find it unlikely that Pearson has had the amount of success in business that he has without knowing anything at all about leadership.
Radford appears to have thought that he could get the best out of the players by including them in the decision making process. Clearly that's only worked for a few. I think he's now struggling to understand why players who say and do one thing in training fail to perform on matchday.
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| Quote: Kosh "When Radford took over one of the first things the players asked him to do was start dropping people based on form. It's a bit late for them to decide they don't like it now.'"
Appeasing the players is not managing them though is it? What the players want may not necessarily be what's best for them or the team. Form is subjective , based on many things including the form of other players and it's often a slow burn into or out of form. Then there's confidence , fitness and the players ability to be honest with themselves about those things. That's why we need an experienced coach with insight and an ability to manage people and communicate with a whole range of different personalities and we certainly don't have that at the moment. What's more worrying is that we are not looking to add any experience in this area. Quite the opposite in fact in that we are bringing in two more inexperienced people to the coaching staff , Tuson and Horne , for no other reason than they played for us. With Horne it's even more bizarre because he has been a common factor throughout the period where we've lacked professionalism in the playing staff. Not necessarily down to him of course but it would seem to me to be incredible that we think he will somehow now be able to do something to change what he's been a part of for so long and like Last and Radford has absolutely no experience of anything else.
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| At last the penny seems to have dropped on here that Radford as a coach is rubbish.
Several of us on here have been blasted for repeated criticism of Radford but its justified as his performance as a coach is reaching new levels of ineptitude.
When a new coach comes in you usually see improved performance and results.
Castleford,Wakefield,Bradford are recent examples but with Radford the club has gone backwards at an alarming rate.
We all know his team selections at times are bizarre but now to admit there will be several changes for the next match just shows how badly he gets it wrong
maybe we will see Ben Crooks back in the side.
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| Quote: Kosh "I find it unlikely that Pearson has had the amount of success in business that he has without knowing anything at all about leadership.
Radford appears to have thought that he could get the best out of the players by including them in the decision making process. Clearly that's only worked for a few. I think he's now struggling to understand why players who say and do one thing in training fail to perform on matchday.'"
Keep cheer-leading, you are a doing a wonderful job for the rest of the teams in the worst SL/1st Division in modern history...and the city of Hull cannot raise a gallop...
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| Quote: bonaire "At last the penny seems to have dropped on here that Radford as a coach is rubbish.
Several of us on here have been blasted for repeated criticism of Radford but its justified as his performance as a coach is reaching new levels of ineptitude..'"
True we have, but on here criticising the coach is `slagging the club off'
As a club we've had plenty of dark periods, but usually when we've been skint, unfortunately a clueless owner, clueless coach, & a coaching staff made up
of`jobs for the boys' is never going to work, no matter how stable our finances are.
The team is underperforming big time, - poorly `coached', no structure/game plan, poor team selection etc ( all covered umpteen times on here) &
if Pearson can't/won't see it I really don't know where we are heading.
Signing better quality players will improve the team but its papering over the cracks. Radford will hopefully prove he has some integrity & fall on his sword.
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| Quote: westdock boy in oz "True we have, but on here criticising the coach is `slagging the club off'
As a club we've had plenty of dark periods, but usually when we've been skint, unfortunately a clueless owner, clueless coach, & a coaching staff made up
of`jobs for the boys' is never going to work, no matter how stable our finances are.
The team is underperforming big time, - poorly `coached', no structure/game plan, poor team selection etc ( all covered umpteen times on here) &
if Pearson can't/won't see it I really don't know where we are heading.
Signing better quality players will improve the team but its papering over the cracks. Radford will hopefully prove he has some integrity & fall on his sword.'"
Completely agree, I hope Pearson is simply being stubborn about his 'Club Hull' idea and is wanting to save face...if he isn't then he genuinely believes Radford and 'jobs for the boys' is the future and that is very worrying indeed.
and timing wise with the new structure it couldn't come at a worse time, the 'top8' luxury yacht is getting ready to sail off and make its clubs richer, leaving Hull on board the Middle8 pedalo battling to survive and stay afloat financially.
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| Quote: Voltaire "Keep cheer-leading, you are a doing a wonderful job for the rest of the teams in the worst SL/1st Division in modern history...and the city of Hull cannot raise a gallop...'"
Cheer-leading? I never wanted the bloke appointed in the first place. I'd be overjoyed if he was replaced tomorrow by an experienced head coach. I just can't stand people posting ill-thought-out and inaccurate stuff. The situation is dire enough, it doesn't need help.
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| So once again, we make more meters, have more sets than the opposition and get beat, halfs are poor and backs no pace or killing instinct.
Our centres made 9 runs between them, 3 from Whiting which us terrible, he should never okay centre again, whilst we have other players who can play there. Sa has to start there next week.
Our Forwards did ok, most made good metres, Main problem is halfs and backs, no skill or pace at all.
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| Also we made about 60 tackle busts compared to their 22.
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| These stats point squarely at poor selection from the coach and general ineptitude from the players. It's just depressing, frankly.
We're also the only team in the bottom 8 with a positive points difference. Go figure.
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