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Quote: Jake the Peg "Would you put in a chief exec who had no previous experience in a similar role? Or would you look for someone with a proven track record in taking similar businesses forward?

Would you appoint and operations manager (coach in this case) into his first such position? Or would you appoint someone with a proven track record, possibly at a slightly smaller organisation?

Or would you just go for the cheapest option in the belief your income streams won't reduce anyway?'"


Naah

I'd save all my dosh and look on here and gain the benefit (FOC of course), of all the fooking experts, who have become so successfull in life that all they have to do, is fill their time by posting stupid messages on a web forum.

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The club exists and is ran successfully for one reason only.

Us the fans.

End of story.

I will never throw, well we have a grade a license at anyone. For example, lets say throw it at a rovers fan. Response "we beat you on your own muck" "we are better than you"

Holds feck all meaning to me.
Shove this bollax where the sun don't shine if we dont have a successfull team WHICH IS WHY WE PAY THESE CLOWNS!

God, the grad a license is fantastic, as is everything financially. We are well run and fair play to it. But you know what, It for me comes as a gloating secondary factor. We have that AS WELL AS a successful team What those players do when I go and watch is all I really care about. I want us to win, but if we are crap, as long as we show effort and give a for my money, I am a happy boy.

What a lot of you chaps on here need to realise is that we finance the vast majority of this. We are actually in control as without us nothing acutally exists.

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Quote: hull smallears "The club exists and is ran successfully for one reason only.

Us the fans.

End of story.

I will never throw, well we have a grade a license at anyone. For example, lets say throw it at a rovers fan. Response "we beat you on your own muck" "we are better than you"

Holds feck all meaning to me.
Shove this bollax where the sun don't shine if we dont have a successfull team WHICH IS WHY WE PAY THESE CLOWNS!

God, the grad a license is fantastic, as is everything financially. We are well run and fair play to it. But you know what, It for me comes as a gloating secondary factor. We have that AS WELL AS a successful team What those players do when I go and watch is all I really care about. I want us to win, but if we are crap, as long as we show effort and give a poop for my money, I am a happy boy.

What a lot of you chaps on here need to realise is that we finance the vast majority of this. We are actually in control as without us nothing acutally exists.'"


That's a very broad statement, unless of course you also work for Sky and some of our sponsors!!

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Quote: hull smallears "What a lot of you chaps on here need to realise is that we finance the vast majority of this. We are actually in control as without us nothing acutally exists.'"

Do we? Not sure that's the case TBH.

Fans contribution is through pass sales, matchday tickets, and merchandising.

Other income streams are the Sky money, sponsorship, and corporate sales.

It would be interesting to see a breakdown on these items (not sure they're in the abbreviated accounts that get published) because I reckon the split might surprise a few.

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Quote: Kosh "Do we? Not sure that's the case TBH.

Fans contribution is through pass sales, matchday tickets, and merchandising.

Other income streams are the Sky money, sponsorship, and corporate sales.

It would be interesting to see a breakdown on these items (not sure they're in the abbreviated accounts that get published) because I reckon the split might surprise a few.'"


To be honest I had a few beers at pool last night when I wrote that.
The point I was trying to make is that the fans are tantamount to the clubs overall success

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Quote: hull smallears "The club exists and is ran successfully for one reason only.

Us the fans.

End of story.

I will never throw, well we have a grade a license at anyone. For example, lets say throw it at a rovers fan. Response "we beat you on your own muck" "we are better than you"

Holds feck all meaning to me.
Shove this bollax where the sun don't shine if we dont have a successfull team WHICH IS WHY WE PAY THESE CLOWNS!

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What a lot of you chaps on here need to realise is that we finance the vast majority of this. We are actually in control as without us nothing acutally exists.'"


Your post is spot on.
As with any sporting club, you take away the fans and they have nothing, people can bang on about sponsorship and Sky money, but why do you think sponsons whant to be involved in the first place? I'll answer my own question, to sell their produce to you, the fans, and If we the fans were not subscribing to Sky, do you think for one minute they wouldn't drop RL like a hot potato, Why do you think one of the criteria for the licences is 10,000+ fans, that wasn't done on a whim, I suspect that Sky had a say in that. The underlying truth behind all of this is that without the fans there is no professional game,only the amateur game.

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Quote: hull smallears "To be honest I had a few beers at pool last night when I wrote that.
The point I was trying to make is that the fans are tantamount to the clubs overall success'"

There's no doubt that no club can exist without the fans, no matter how good the alternative income streams might be. There's also no doubt that success on the pitch is not only important for the fans, but also for many of those other income streams as well.

Something that perhaps has been forgotten at least temporarily by the management of the club.

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Quote: hull smallears "To be honest I had a few beers at pool last night when I wrote that.
The point I was trying to make is that the fans are tantamount to the clubs overall success'"


Couldn't agree more. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what licence the club has if no one goes to watch. The licence is important though because the RL have said you need one to play in the top competition and we have the best grade you can get. Medium/long term this gives us our best chance of success in the top competition however it's down to the club management to ensure this happens. An improved recruitment and retention policy would go a long way to achieving that.

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I think u will find the fans do contribute the majority of the clubs income.
Gate receipts 13 home games, av crowd 14000 av ticket price £15 gives £2730000.
Club shop sales £1 million.

Income from fans = £3.73 million

I think that is the majority of £5million turnover........

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Quote: Hull Kingston Convicts "I think u will find the fans do contribute the majority of the clubs income.
Gate receipts 13 home games, av crowd 14000 av ticket price £15 gives £2730000.
Club shop sales £1 million.

Income from fans

You need to knock off VAT from that, that will be close to £0.5m icon_wink.gif

To the original poster, the operations manager, as you post it, is not in he first coaching appointment icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "You need to knock off VAT from that, that will be close to £0.5m Think you missed the point. The club has turnover between £5million and £6million. Over £3.7million is form the fans......

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You don't think an error that cost us 60 grand is serious?

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Quote: Hull Kingston Convicts "I think u will find the fans do contribute the majority of the clubs income.
Gate receipts 13 home games, av crowd 14000 av ticket price £15 gives £2730000.
Club shop sales £1 million.

Income from fans

Not all the 14,000 people who gave pay £15, some are pass holders, soe corporates etc.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "You don't think an error that cost us 60 grand is serious?'"

Not when it earned us far more. icon_lol.gif

and it wasn't £60k

HTH

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Quote: Standee "Not all the 14,000 people who gave pay £15, some are pass holders, soe corporates etc.'"


Point missed again.
We are discussing the turnover of the club. Someone stated the fans do not contribute the majority of turnover to Hull FC. I have proved they do.

Care to dispute that fact?

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