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| mwindass:HU8HFC:James Bell is also another Saints player we’re interested in I like him but he'd take up our last quota spot. Not sure it'd be wise to sign him when we have Asiata as our 13 2026 would be his 6th season in super league, would that bring him off the quota? Only possible logic I could see behind the interest (as well as him being a good player of course).
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| HU8HFC:mwindass:HU8HFC:James Bell is also another Saints player we’re interested in I like him but he'd take up our last quota spot. Not sure it'd be wise to sign him when we have Asiata as our 13 2026 would be his 6th season in super league, would that bring him off the quota? Only possible logic I could see behind the interest (as well as him being a good player of course). Didn't think of that!
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| I might be wrong on this, but think it has to be 5 seasons in the same league, so it would only be 4 as 2021/22 were in the championship
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| Dave K.:I might be wrong on this, but think it has to be 5 seasons in the same league, so it would only be 4 as 2021/22 were in the championship Unfortunately yes, we Saints fans went through the new rules with a fine toothed comb and came to the conclusion that Bell is at least 2 years away from qualifying to be fed trained as his time at Toulouse and Leigh doesn't count. Someone whose chairman doesnt sit on the RFL board might well be in a better position to challenge that though as it seems really discriminatory. I must confess I assumed he was off to Leigh as they have been chasing him for almost the entire time hes been at Saints. From our perspective were looking to replace Knowles in the market (linked with Brandon Smith and Morgan Smithies god help us) and Wingfield will step into Bells bench role, with Leon Cowen backfilling depth from the academy. Frees up a non-fed spot for us (which is needed to replace Knowles most likely) and a chunk of cap.
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| Magic Superbeetle:Dave K.:I might be wrong on this, but think it has to be 5 seasons in the same league, so it would only be 4 as 2021/22 were in the championship Unfortunately yes, we Saints fans went through the new rules with a fine toothed comb and came to the conclusion that Bell is at least 2 years away from qualifying to be fed trained as his time at Toulouse and Leigh doesn't count. Someone whose chairman doesnt sit on the RFL board might well be in a better position to challenge that though as it seems really discriminatory. I must confess I assumed he was off to Leigh as they have been chasing him for almost the entire time hes been at Saints. From our perspective were looking to replace Knowles in the market (linked with Brandon Smith and Morgan Smithies god help us) and Wingfield will step into Bells bench role, with Leon Cowen backfilling depth from the academy. Frees up a non-fed spot for us (which is needed to replace Knowles most likely) and a chunk of cap. I’d tend to agree that the restriction is a little discriminatory. Surely it should be about the length of time served playing in British game not just SL, as the RFL are the national governing body (well supposedly).
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| Wasn't Leigh in Super League in 2021?
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| Yes, but that would still only be 5 years, think also it also has to be 6 years continuous in SL to count. So someone like Sezer it wouldn't count as he had a year back in the NRL. For the Saints fan, what are your thoughts on Batchelor, for me a good signing and improvement on what we have, still not a bad age.
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| Dave K.:Yes, but that would still only be 5 years, think also it also has to be 6 years continuous in SL to count. So someone like Sezer it wouldn't count as he had a year back in the NRL. For the Saints fan, what are your thoughts on Batchelor, for me a good signing and improvement on what we have, still not a bad age. From a purely selfish perspective, I would be very pleased if Saints let Batchelor go. But thats more about us having a bit of a warchest this season with a lot of deadwood (Hurrell, Ritson, Mbye, Bell) moving on meaning we should be targeting some pretty high profile replacements. At one point it looked like Batchelor was going to be the premier backrower in the competition (the magic game against Wigan was a definite high point) so theres no doubt hes talented, but it feels like hes been one of those players who ever since we won in Aus decided that was the career highlight and it was job done - couple that with a frustrating few years with niggly injuries and its been frustrating all round. I actually think him moving to Hull and getting some rivalry going with his brother would do him the world of good breaking out of that malaise but thats something we cant offer him. If you can get him back to his best he will do an incredible job for you, and there arent many fed trained backrowers like him - able to run a line and bust a tackle. If he stays as he is, he will still be alright, but you will just be wracked with what could have been.
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| Magic Superbeetle:Dave K.:Yes, but that would still only be 5 years, think also it also has to be 6 years continuous in SL to count. So someone like Sezer it wouldn't count as he had a year back in the NRL. For the Saints fan, what are your thoughts on Batchelor, for me a good signing and improvement on what we have, still not a bad age. From a purely selfish perspective, I would be very pleased if Saints let Batchelor go. But thats more about us having a bit of a warchest this season with a lot of deadwood (Hurrell, Ritson, Mbye, Bell) moving on meaning we should be targeting some pretty high profile replacements. At one point it looked like Batchelor was going to be the premier backrower in the competition (the magic game against Wigan was a definite high point) so theres no doubt hes talented, but it feels like hes been one of those players who ever since we won in Aus decided that was the career highlight and it was job done - couple that with a frustrating few years with niggly injuries and its been frustrating all round. I actually think him moving to Hull and getting some rivalry going with his brother would do him the world of good breaking out of that malaise but thats something we cant offer him. If you can get him back to his best he will do an incredible job for you, and there arent many fed trained backrowers like him - able to run a line and bust a tackle. If he stays as he is, he will still be alright, but you will just be wracked with what could have been. Thank you a fair and honest appraisal
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| Could be movement out of salford this week, wages still havnt gone through and players patience is wearing very thin.
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Could be movement out of salford this week, wages still havnt gone through and players patience is wearing very thin. It's not looking great with Salford at the minute that's for sure, with the missed/overdue payment of players wages then the real threat of a pts deduction should now come in to force along with further sanctions. I feel sorry for the players & staff who are caught up in this along with the fans. Reading some stuff some of their fans have it in for Shaw with his reporting on the issues, I'm no fan of Shaw myself but the blame for all of this lays with those in charge of operating Salford. They are pretty much radio silent with very little information being forthcoming which doesn't help their cause, as we know ourselves from recent experience.
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| Surely the rfl do some due diligence on prospective club owners? I thought this new owner was some mega rich Swiss banker? Where's the money?
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