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| Quote: pmarrow "Do you really believe this ?
When you spend big money on a player you expect a return and we are not getting that. How many world class games has Westerman had for us whilst he has being here ? How many times has Westerman done something which has wowed us ?
He is done neither, he is going backwards. Ask Cas fans if they are bothered he left them. His stats considering he has missed half a season are embarrassing.'"
Unrealistic expectations mate, nothing more. There are worse 'value for money' players in our squad.
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| If lauaki bends down into westermans arm then more the fool to him. Westerman and tother week puletua along with moa had their arms to their sides and non dileberately attacked the head. Its up to the attacker not to put their head in a dangerous position. If a defender bends low to tackle and catches a knee or hip to the head then he doesnt get a penalty
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| Quote: pmarrow "Do you really believe this ?
When you spend big money on a player you expect a return and we are not getting that. How many world class games has Westerman had for us whilst he has being here ? How many times has Westerman done something which has wowed us ?
He is done neither, he is going backwards. Ask Cas fans if they are bothered he left them. His stats considering he has missed half a season are embarrassing.'"
Are they?
Westerman's stats per game:
tries: 0.25
meters: 65.25
tackles: 25.4
missed tackles: 1.25
penalties: 0.75
errors: 0.6
carries: 11.5
offloads: 0.8
try assists: 0
tackle busts: 1.3
Richard Whiting's:
tries: 0.2
meters: 55
tackles: 20.8
missed tackles: 1
penalties: 0.55
errors: 0.5
carries: 8.45
offloads: 0.9
try assists: 0.15
tackle busts: 0.9
Not that bad like for like I'd say.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "So Westerman's the only one who misses tackles? O'Meley and Manu both missed tackles that led directly to tries. You're just another poster who likes to bag Westerman at every opportunity because we paid a fee and he's not single handedly winning us games.
Comments like 'the biggest waste of money ever' just make you look more stupid than I ever could.'"
He's not the 'biggest waste of money ever' - there are loads of players more deserving of that crown - but equally, he's not of the sort of standard we need if we are to reach the heights we aspire to. If it was possible, I'd have him replaced at the end of the season.
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| Quote: Rock God X "He's not the 'biggest waste of money ever' - there are loads of players more deserving of that crown - but equally, he's not of the sort of standard we need if we are to reach the heights we aspire to. If it was possible, I'd have him replaced at the end of the season.'"
Westerman would find himself a place in any 17 in the league. He should, however, be played consistently as a wide 2nd rower. His try assist for Gleeson in the CP derby last year was a real 'wow' moment, and is the level he can achieve given a consistent run there.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Quote: east hull FC fan "He's not the 'biggest waste of money ever' - there are loads of players more deserving of that crown - but equally, he's not of the sort of standard we need if we are to reach the heights we aspire to. If it was possible, I'd have him replaced at the end of the season.'"
Westerman would find himself a place in any 17 in the league.'"
We'll have to agree to differ on that. Maybe I "don't understand his role", but I really don't think he's any more than an average player. The odd great pass doesn't change that.
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| I don't get all the sudden Westy bashing, I really don't. He captained the England Knights last season FFS. He's 22!
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| Quote: "His try assist for Gleeson in the CP derby last year was a real 'wow' moment,'"
Just like John Barnes goal against Brazil
I seem to have opened up a can of worms with this thread
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| Quote: Rock God X "We'll have to agree to differ on that. Maybe I "don't understand his role", but I really don't think he's any more than an average player. The odd great pass doesn't change that.'"
We don't have another 2nd rower at the club capable of that creativity to ghost through a gap then execute the pass.
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| Should have been sent of IMO as his challenge was worse that pulatua(sp) and moas
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Quote: east hull FC fan "We'll have to agree to differ on that. Maybe I "don't understand his role", but I really don't think he's any more than an average player. The odd great pass doesn't change that.'"
We don't have another 2nd rower at the club capable of that creativity to ghost through a gap then execute the pass.'"
If only he did it more than twice a season.
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| Quote: Rock God X "If only he did it more than twice a season.'"
Still, better than zero, eh?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Quote: east hull FC fan "If only he did it more than twice a season.'"
Still, better than zero, eh?'"
Yes, but it's not enough to make him worth keeping, IMO. The rest of the time he's quite ordinary.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Yes, but it's not enough to make him worth keeping, IMO. The rest of the time he's quite ordinary.'"
He really isn't, but that's your opinion.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Quote: east hull FC fan "Yes, but it's not enough to make him worth keeping, IMO. The rest of the time he's quite ordinary.'"
He really isn't, but that's your opinion.'"
It's also your opinion that he isn't.
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