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Quote: mwindass "Holbrook had a better quality of players to work with though...

Makinson, Grace, Percival, Lomax, Roby, Walmsley, Knowles would all walk into our team.'"


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Quote: mwindass "Holbrook had a better quality of players to work with though...

Makinson, Grace, Percival, Lomax, Roby, Walmsley, Knowles would all walk into our team.'"



Yes they did, also Thompson, Taia and Fages.

On paper they had a great side including the best two props in SL.

Hodgson doesn't have that to work with.

He does have a base though and with a few quality players in the right are he should have the players to start turning us around.

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Quote: Raggytash "I don't believe that's true. Justin Holbrook took a Saints team that looked finished and transformed them and he only stayed for 3 seasons. Most class Aussie coaches rarely last more than 3 seasons before they find a better job. It took Daryl Powell 1 year to get Cas to Wembley and he transformed their style of play in his very first season.

All I look for is any set plays, or stylistic differences in our play this season compared to under Radford. And I'm yet to notice anything different. Even the much talked about extra effort in defence early doors is no different to when we was playing well under Radford.'"


The results speak for themselves so im very much on the fence with Hodgson. However that Saints team Holbrook took over was already full of championship winning players and a conveyor belt of youth talent, however he still only won a major trophy in his last season. Saints were also in a better position then we are.

The trouble with this squad is its all built on brute force so there is not alot you can do with in terms of expansive play. When we had all of Sneyd, Reynolds and Connor playing we have created space but ultimately when one piece of the jigsaw is gone we have fallen apart.

Saying all that though we should have finished higher and have said that every year since 2017. Its time for players to be moved on, they missed there chance. Im hopeful if BH can get a few players he wants then things may improve.

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More cloak & dagger stuff from BH in the HDM regarding Ben McNamara rlhererl though not sure why he can't just come out and say one way or the other if McNamara is or isn't going to be with the club next season.

If decisions have been in terms of him staying or going then surely he or the club could let us know instead of this non committal guff that 'his future is now clear'. The club need the fans onside as much as possible and currently the way BH is coming across is just making me wonder if he's actually interested or not as its quite a negative stance particularly after the way they finished the season.

Everything just seems to be a farce as if they don't even know their from their elbow

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Quote: Chris71 "More cloak & dagger stuff from BH in the HDM regarding Ben McNamara rlhererl though not sure why he can't just come out and say one way or the other if McNamara is or isn't going to be with the club next season.

If decisions have been in terms of him staying or going then surely he or the club could let us know instead of this non committal guff that 'his future is now clear'. The club need the fans onside as much as possible and currently the way BH is coming across is just making me wonder if he's actually interested or not as its quite a negative stance particularly after the way they finished the season.

Everything just seems to be a farce as if they don't even know their booty from their elbow'"


I agree wtf was that, between the lines he’s probably off, logically you’d think, if he had signed, they would say so, who knows it’s like espionage. Maybe big Maccas taken him under his wing at Cats.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "I agree wtf was that, between the lines he’s probably off, logically you’d think, if he had signed, they would say so, who knows it’s like espionage. Maybe big Maccas taken him under his wing at Cats.'"


Exactly Rider you'd think under the current malaise with the fans due to the poor season and the way the last 10/11 games have gone you'd expect the club to be doing its best to engage with its fans. For me all this sort of stuff does is antagonise us, if you can't say anything then don't say anything at all, he's either staying or going so I'm pretty sure they can at least let the fans know that without releasing details. I think the fans have supported the club fantastically well especially with not being able to see games yet they seem to think that this guff in the press is the way to treat us.

Talk about how to lose fans and alienate them.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "I agree wtf was that, between the lines he’s probably off, logically you’d think, if he had signed, they would say so, who knows it’s like espionage. Maybe big Maccas taken him under his wing at Cats.'"


That’s what I thought. If he was staying, surely we’d just come out and say it today.

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Quote: Chris71 "More cloak & dagger stuff from BH in the HDM regarding Ben McNamara rlhererl though not sure why he can't just come out and say one way or the other if McNamara is or isn't going to be with the club next season.

If decisions have been in terms of him staying or going then surely he or the club could let us know instead of this non committal guff that 'his future is now clear'. The club need the fans onside as much as possible and currently the way BH is coming across is just making me wonder if he's actually interested or not as its quite a negative stance particularly after the way they finished the season.

Everything just seems to be a farce as if they don't even know their booty from their elbow'"


not really bothered about McNamara
when you look at Pryce at Huddersfield who is only 18 thats what you want to see from a Half back.
McNamara is average.Will end up as a nine with a Championship club.
Have a look at the try Pryce scored at the weekend

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Quote: bonaire "not really bothered about McNamara
when you look at Pryce at Huddersfield who is only 18 thats what you want to see from a Half back.
McNamara is average.Will end up as a nine with a Championship club.
Have a look at the try Pryce scored at the weekend'"


It’s not really about that, it’s the mystery and imagination of garbled information, fed to supporters to decipher.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "It’s not really about that, it’s the mystery and imagination of garbled information, fed to supporters to decipher.'"


you dont have to decipher it he has priced himself out of a contract

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Excluding the HDM clutter,...

“We’ve had our conversations with Ben,” Hodgson said.
“He knows where his future lies and I’ll wait for that to come out in due course.
“This isn’t the forum to speculate on that, as I said, Ben knows, his management know and we’re aware of what his situation is.”

Hardly rocket science, players prefer to announce new deals (rather than "no deal"icon_wink.gif, so let's wait and see.

(OT Premiership agents earned about £270m last year, about the same as broadcasters paid ManU. icon_sad.gif )

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For me, we'd have been better with a proven coach, simply because they'll have faced adversity, at some point before in their coaching career. Hodgson has never had to stand up alone as the go to guy previously, that was always the head coach, so he has no experience of handling the situation he faced towards the mid-point of the season, which for me, Rovers game apart, he handled pretty badly. His bench rotation, at times, was bizarre and he certainly lost some of the players, although we don't know if, behind the scenes, moves were in place to oust several before their contract's were up.

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Who did you have in mind ? As most of the Aussie coaches who come over here not head coaches or did you have someone in mind from GB

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Quote: hull2524 "Who did you have in mind ? As most of the Aussie coaches who come over here not head coaches or did you have someone in mind from GB'"


Ideally I'd have liked Shaun Wane, as his teams, sometimes devoid of flair, were aggressive and left nothing in the stands . I am obviously not privy to whispers within the game as to who was available, but I am sure AP was and I feel sure we could have recruited even a stop gap like McDermott, who at least would not take the current attitude shown by certain players without confronting it. I am not saying that Hodgson hasn't , but whatever, if we stick or twist it is depressing to watch our team at the moment.

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Quote: bonaire "you dont have to decipher it he has priced himself out of a contract'"


So you did have to decipher it, after all icon_biggrin.gif

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