Just imagine if we'd have done what was expected on Saturday and beat Salford. We'd be clear in second place, and all would be rosey in the garden.

Yet lose, and still joint second place, and we're in a major crisis.

The small margins of sport eh?

It would have been papering over the cracks thought wouldn't it.

The problem is we didn't do what was needed and the manner in which they went about it was simply not good enough and another heavy defeat at home and it isn't an isolated incident which is why its an issue.

But lets just ignore that fact and yippee were in joint 2nd well 4th actually due to our shockingly bad negative pts difference with a very real threat of not making the top 5 based on recent performances. Its not a major crisis but there are serious issues that need addressing. Why should we just be happy as we're still in the top 5 but ignore the fact we have, this season turned in some of most abject performances on more than a few occasions?

I hate to say it, but I can see a blow out like last year.

Who is saying we are in a major crisis? We are a decent side who have had a mediocre season. Under Radford, that's all we can ever hope to be imo, regardless of who we sign. If we really want to be a serious threat next year and beyond, there needs to be a change in coaching. If he doesn't get us to a grand final this year then that should be the end of the road imo.

We didn’t look like a decent side on Saturday, and considering the reward on offer, the performance was heartbreaking. Admittedly we were without Sika & Mini, plus Albert.

Regarding Radders, he will be in charge next year regardless of making the GF or not this year. With the new playing staff assembled, next year he has to improve our style of play, and our defence is nowhere near good enough to win anything.

The basics have been forgotten this season, catching, passing, running, tackling.

We really are missing a trick with Shaul's inability to create. Whether that is his fault or the Radders I do not know. But it needs sorting.

It’s got to be tactical, Radford obviously doesn’t feel the need for the fb to turn provider, clearly it ain’t something practiced in trading over the last 5 years. Shaul still wouldn’t be in the team if it was something practiced for that long and he still ain’t getting it

I agree with most sentiments posted on here but I do think shaul is a victim of our pedestrian passing most times .Like Jake mentioned a few posts back , By the time he's linked in and got the pass , theres no overlap created or gap to run into . I'd drop Sneyd before Shaul , He's way to inconsistent player for such a important role .

Best drop them all then, because the whole teams way to inconsistent

I can't see past Wigan in 2020 though no doubt Hull will be a major player.

With the star quality of Jackson Hastings and George Burgess on board to augment what they already have they will really take some stopping next season. Those kids in the Wigan pack have no fear.

Issues id like to see resolved

1. Workload spread around the props, we use the same props way too much resulting in fatigue and a drop in performance, see Sataes first appearance as a prime example.

2. The pivots arnt vocal enough, resulting in alot of mix ups on plays, see vs salford when the team setup for a kick yet ellis recieved the ball, the hastings try when four defenders watched him stroll in, the hastings kick where three defenders stood and watched as a salford player claimed the ball etc etc etc used the salford game as its frsh in the memory but many more examples, we need vocal leaders.

3. Kick variation can we see the lesser spotted grubber kick to the ingoal please, we d put so much more pressure and field position on teams mixing it up.

4. Dropping inconsistemt players who make consistent errors and mistakes, the recruitement should allow us t9 fo this

Not sure, but am I seeing things, is the complete top tier of Wembley empty!!! How embarrassing, should be ashamed! Oh wait think I’ve seen a few people