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Fullback. FFS is fecking obvious.

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It's about time those within the ivory towers took a decent look at themselves and just see were they want the club to go. Again we stumble upon the chance to push on as a club and return to those days were we were a force within RL and not just contenders . It just seems £ is the trophy now .

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The trouble I see (apart from Agar) is that we are constantly harking back to 2005 and 2006 with some players.
Horne is a classic example. I have supported him through thick and thin but we are now waiting for him to replicate form of years ago. The question is how long do we wait and at what point do we say thanks for the memories / the effort etc etc. I strongly believe that time is now with Horne.
Another for me is Yeaman. Yes he has at times shown a bit of form this season but when he signed a new contract there was talk on here of if her replicates the form of 2006" ... how long do we wait for that?

I could go on but Agar , Washy, Horney, Hall, Dowes are for me the nucleous of our problems has beens or never will bees who simply are not good enough for a top four team, or at least a team with aspirations of top 4.

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Quote: Riff "You could tell quite plainly today the guy was injured and could not move. He should not have even been playing as he was clearly not fit.

A fit Horne is still a SL player...

lets focus on the coach .'"


Most of the above sums it up for me. You could see from the first set he was limping badly, and should never have been out there.

The team/squad on paper is more than capable of challenging in SL, but it is the way the team is setup that makes us look like a NL1 team. Agar is 5 years behind the rest of SL with his tactics, and it is turning a very good squad into no hopers. There are 3 main things for me that need to change [not including replacing Agar with a real tactitian, Steve Foulkes for me] and they are Depth in attack - our halves and strike players keep getting smashed because we start too flat and try and play at the line, and SL defences are too quick and fit for this to be productive.

[2] Numbers in the tackle - all our problems start from being beat at the play the ball - and the easiest way to rectify this is just put more men in the tackle - you get longer to peel away and then defensively you are more solid.

[3] Intensity/ Enthusiasm - everything is half d, and it needs to be done with a lot more urgency. And this would be helped by the two points above becasue the deeper you start, eveything you do is with players going forward, and the more time you have in defence, the quicker you can get off the line.

They are the short term problems, but as above AGAR NEEDS TO GO - and a Foulkes, Kearney, Gould [maybe wishing here] needs to give this Club the direction it needs on the field.

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Quote: pmarrow "Whose this Horne you speak of ? Is he actually a player ?'"

He used to be.

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Quote: Knockerandy "Horne is still a decent player he is just not a scrum half. '"


And never has been. Even when Cooke was at the club people, for whatever reason, seemed to think that Horne was a scrum half because he had a squad number 7 on his back. He's always played better with a decent partner, I don't understand why it's a shock to people.

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When Horne and Turner are together at 6 and 7 we don't have an ounce of creativity. Horne is a runner and Turner isn't a half back full stop imo. We could do alot worse than put Nicklas there for a game or two untill Longs back.

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horne looked back to his best earlier in the year. He is clearly unfit and should not have played. He doesn't deserve some of the negative things been said on here

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Quote: FC Wembley 08 "It's nothing to do with engaging brain before posting at all...... it's to do with my opinion.

Richard Horne is over rated by too many people. He's an average player. If he was a quota player everyone would be up in arms about how cr@p he is.. He's been past it for a long time now!!

It's no good saying he'd be great with Long, as most players would be great with Long (or any other good scrumhalf). His problem is he can't even get the basics right.... There are so many players in superleague better than Rich Horne on a fraction of his wage!! Get rid, there's no room for sentiment in sport!!'"

think you will find if you engaged your brain more, less tosh would come out your mouth.
its nothing to do with Horne being a HULL lad, he was obviously injured yesterday , and to say he cant get the basics right is tosh icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Big Dave T "horne looked back to his best earlier in the year. He is clearly unfit and should not have played. He doesn't deserve some of the negative things been said on here'"


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Quote: weaver93 "We sign one of the must influential playmaker's in Super League history,
and now ,he looks an ordinary player.'"


I read on here how Long will bite back and tell players and coaching staff if things are going wrong and if things need changing, are you guys to assume he is having no say at all?

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "I read on here how Long will bite back and tell players and coaching staff if things are going wrong and if things need changing, are you guys to assume he is having no say at all?'"


Our attack coach is Agar, so you can assume Long is having no input at all,judging by their performances.

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Quote: HULLMAD "think you will find if you engaged your brain more, less tosh would come out your mouth.
its nothing to do with Horne being a HULL lad, he was obviously injured yesterday , and to say he cant get the basics right is tosh
So what tosh has come out of my mouth exactly?? Or are you actually retarded??

If he was injured he shouldn't have played but he did and was cr@p!! Just like the last 4/5 years!! He's average at best, and has to go...

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Quote: FC Wembley 08 "So what tosh has come out of my mouth exactly?? Or are you actually retarded??

If he was injured he shouldn't have played but he did and was cr@p!! Just like the last 4/5 years!! He's average at best, and has to go...'"


This

Worst player on the the pitch by far!!
Half a million £s in his testimonial events and IMO he's stolen a living for 10+yrs.......
Never been great and getting worse!! He's got to go, he's on good money and we get nothing back from him!!

Horne has been great for Hull FC for 8 years the last 2 years, plus most this season he has been poor.

He seems to get too many injuries these days, also illness and injuries havent helped and I think his days at Hull FC are coming to an end.

He use to make regular breaks, this hasnt happened for the last few years on a regualar basis.

Also whats happned to his defence he use to be one of the best defenders in SL, now his defence is poor.

Drop him or play him at FB, with Tansey at 6.

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Quote: FC Wembley 08 "So what tosh has come out of my mouth exactly?? Or are you actually retarded??

If he was injured he shouldn't have played but he did and was cr@p!! Just like the last 4/5 years!! He's average at best, and has to go...'"


the tosh is YOU stating Horney needs to go and finding every opportunity to slag him off, , and that he is average, , its obvious he was limping yesterday, and maybe he shouldnt have played HOWEVER HE WASNT THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS POOR yesterday
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