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Was getting rid of Raynor a bit hasty?
Calderwood and Raynor on each wing . Yeaman at left centre . Hall , Briscoe and Whiting fighting for the right centre spot.
Tom is a talent but he needs to play centre.
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[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: WormInHand "I cannot understand why, knowing as they did about the court case etc, Hull gave Raynor the 5 shirt only to get rid of him just before the season started. Surely this should have happened ages ago if it was going to at all and the close season goal be to get an experienced replacement.'"
Legal advice could easily have changed. It's entirely possible that the club were advised that he'd be fine, only to be told later that the situation was now worse. I think that they stuck with him as long as they could but the combination of a less optimistic legal prognosis and his continuing injury trouble combined to change their mind.
Just an unfortunate combination of circumstances. |
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Was getting rid of Raynor a bit hasty?
Calderwood and Raynor on each wing . Yeaman at left centre . Hall , Briscoe and Whiting fighting for the right centre spot.
Tom is a talent but he needs to play centre.'"
no it was the right choice. |
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Was getting rid of Raynor a bit hasty?
Calderwood and Raynor on each wing . Yeaman at left centre . Hall , Briscoe and Whiting fighting for the right centre spot.
Tom is a talent but he needs to play centre.'"
Circumstances but getting rid was right choice....my concern is the Moa re-signing...was very hasty and could have used money for another back or qouta spot |
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| Quote: fc baldy "Circumstances but getting rid was right choice....my concern is the Moa re-signing...was very hasty and could have used money for another back or qouta spot'"
And then, when one of our props got injured, we'd be without cover. |
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "And then, when one of our props got injured, we'd be without cover.'"
Lauali can cover....got ample cover up front but no cover in wings. |
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| Quote: fc baldy "Lauali can cover....got ample cover up front but no cover in wings.'"
No cover? We've only 1 recognised SL winger in the whole squad.  |
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| Quote: Kosh "So you've never formed an opinion on [ianything[/i that you haven't witnessed with your own eyes? ![]()
Not really.
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| Quote: Kosh "You're both partly right.
You can form an opinion on the generalities of a game from the commentary - although if you're listening to DDD it's a lot more difficult. For instance, forming the opinion that we gave away far too many penalties and/or didn't have enough possession doesn't require that you saw the game. What you can't form a full opinion on is the details of how well individual players performed, how good was the ref, etc. This is why I never vote on the MOM thread when I haven't seen a game for example.
And your analogy was a bit off TBH. If someone had given you a running commentary of the Lost episode you'd have been able to form an opinion of whether it sounded like a good episode or not.'"
Rubbish, you have no idea if the penalty a) should have been awarded b) it was a forced penalty(holding the tackler down to gain penalty) or c) it was a blatant penalty. You would be using [iother[/i peoples opinions to make your own.
Maybe my analogy wasn't the perfect example but you get the idea I was trying to get across. |
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[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One[/i:10za56ci]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6505.jpg |
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| Quote: pmarrow "Rubbish, you have no idea if the penalty a) should have been awarded b) it was a forced penalty(holding the tackler down to gain penalty) or c) it was a blatant penalty. You would be using [iother[/i peoples opinions to make your own.'"
None of which has any relevance to the [inumber[/i of penalties compared to the other team. Neither is any of it relevant to the amount of possession. You don't need to make a value judgement of why the pens are happening to know that there are too many of them or that they're causing a problem. Now - if you wanted to get into a discussion about how justified they were, as you outline above, you'd need to have seen the game.
Quote: pmarrow "Maybe my analogy wasn't the perfect example but you get the idea I was trying to get across.'"
Yes, but your idea is flawed. Or at least partly. There are parts of a game that it's perfectly possible to get enough info about from a radio commentary to form an opinion , and parts that there aren't. |
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| Quote: Kosh "None of which has any relevance to the [inumber[/i of penalties compared to the other team. Neither is any of it relevant to the amount of possession. You don't need to make a value judgement of why the pens are happening to know that there are too many of them or that they're causing a problem. Now - if you wanted to get into a discussion about how justified they were, as you outline above, you'd need to have seen the game.
Yes, but your idea is flawed. Or at least partly. There are parts of a game that it's perfectly possible to get enough info about from a radio commentary to form an opinion , and parts that there aren't.'"
Rubbish, again.
There is no way you can have [iyour[/i own opinion on a game you never saw.
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[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm
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| Quote: pmarrow "Rubbish, again.
There is no way you can have [iyour[/i own opinion on a game you never saw.
End of.'"
And you reckon that [iI'm[/i arrogant. 
Just what I expected from you TBH. Oh well.  |
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| Quote: Kosh "And you reckon that [iI'm[/i arrogant. ![]()
Wasting your time, Kosh. Mr Marrow is just a WUM.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Wasting your time, Kosh. Mr Marrow is just a WUM.'"
You a head master by any chance ? |
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| Quote: Kosh "And you reckon that [iI'm[/i arrogant. ![]()
You are arrogant and always feel the need to try to look down on me. Your last sentence more a less proves it.
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