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| Quote: rich1977 "Just a thought but this same group of players (well nearly) have got rid of our last two coaches by playing poor one up rugby.
Maybe its time to let the coach stay and get rid of the players.
I agree that the coaching doesn't seem to be up to standard i.e. moves and substitutions line speed etc. but if the players know their on there way out do you really feel that they are going to gladly do any of this, especially if they are on good wages.
Certain posters on here have been saying for years we need a clear out of personnel and it looks like it might be happening yet you want the coach to go again?
What I say is give him his chance next year with his team and a proven communicator in the side something we haven’t had in a while.
The last two times Agar took temporary charge we did play expansive rugby under his tenure (maybe this fact is lost though due to the constant doom and gloom on here.) but both times he had a communicator in the side.
Agar is on a steep learning curve but thanks to the salary cap there shouldn't need to be panic sackings every Sodding year.
Do you think Morgan was instantly a good coach or D Anderson or add at you leisure.
People talk about Kearney coming back but he had a hell of a lot of help from a certain Mr Bennet in the world Cup.
Agar maybe isn't the finished article and I’m sure he knows this but I’d rather have a bit of stability at the club and see what happens.
Lastly a certain Mr Whiteley recently said all the guile has been coached out of our players by a succession of oz coaches. I tend to agree with him.'"
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| Quote: wolfie "dont see the point in these agar threads tbh,he will be here next season with his own squad, and certain players will of been released,then we can judge him,if hes still not upto it then its easy,HIS CONTRACT WONT BE RENEWED.hasnt people realised his hands are tied with certain players still under contract till end of the year and he cant play the type of rugby he wants with the players he has.
just my thought of course.'"
If he was a good enough coach, he would be able to take just about any professional RL player and coach them to play his way  |
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "If he was a good enough coach, he would be able to take just about any professional RL player and coach them to play his way ![]()
Fair point, anyone can coach good sides it's great coaches that get the best of players with limited ability and get them players to play for each other and with pride is the 1st step
Brian Smith did a great job with some very poor players
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| Quote: wolfie "maybe if some of the players was ars-d we would see a difference in the way we play.some of the players dont wear there shirt with pride,do you get my drift?'"
Why is he picking them then? Surely he'd be better with a loanee or one of the academy lads than a player who can't be ars'd |
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Why is he picking them then? Surely he'd be better with a loanee or one of the academy lads than a player who can't be ars'd'"
Spot on, how can a coach pick a player knowing he's not giving 100% |
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| Quote: The Brother "I wouldn't give him another game mate, he has lost the plot, the dressing room and his man management is shocking'"
Absolutely spot on. Worst coach we have had since walsh |
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "If he was a good enough coach, he would be able to take just about any professional RL player and coach them to play his way ![]()
I'd go so far as to say that a great coach in harge of mediocre players (I belive our squad is much better than mediocre) would firstly look to wring every last ounce out of the players he has, improving every aspect of their games to maximise what skills they do have, plus he would be looking at the opposition for their weaknesses and expolit them. I haven't seen any of this from agar in his year in the job and for that he should be fired
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All this he (Agar) will be/should be judged next year as it will be HIS team is just a load of e...sorry! Christ ALL coaches who take over teams are in the same situation....players who they haven't signed (Look at Smith and Nathen Brown), Hull might as well have given Agar a 3 1/2 year deal and said fook the first 1 1/2 as we won't judge you...we the fans still pay our money week in week out and deserve better than what we are getting....which in case anyone has forgotten is THEE WORST STYLE of rugby in SL and THEE WORST STLYE i have seen any hull side play for a long time....that is squarly at the front door of Agar!!!
I hope he does prove me wrong becuase if he doesn't i, like all of us, will be sat here this time next year stating the same thing with yet another years ed down the pan!!!
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| Quote: wolfie "dont see the point in these agar threads tbh,he will be here next season with his own squad, and certain players will of been released,then we can judge him,if hes still not upto it then its easy,HIS CONTRACT WONT BE RENEWED.hasnt people realised his hands are tied with certain players still under contract till end of the year and he cant play the type of rugby he wants with the players he has.
just my thought of course.'"
If he's still here next year I for one won't be getting a season pass. Not wasting good money watching boring one man rugby from inept coaching... The signing of two past it players in Long and Fitzgibbon isn't going to change things. |
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| Quote: frankie "If he's still here next year I for one won't be getting a season pass.'"
Bye, then.
Quote: frankie "Not wasting good money watching boring one man rugby from inept coaching... The signing of two past it players in Long and Fitzgibbon isn't going to change things.'"
Long stills wins games for St Helens and Fitzgibbon played for Australia seven months ago. |
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "
Long stills wins games for St Helens Because he has a winning team around him. and Fitzgibbon played for Australia seven months ago. Australia, not Hull FC.'" |
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| Quote: The Brother "Maybe if they spent more time on the training park with the team and put the extra hours in trying to rectify the problems instead of doing half days, works for Justin they train till 4 ish most days look at the difference'"
That's an interesting point actually. I heard a couple of months ago that they only do about three hours a day. I was gobsmacked! I thought they were full time. I wish I could get away with three hours a day!!!!! |
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| Quote: Darkside Dave "That's an interesting point actually. I heard a couple of months ago that they only do about three hours a day. I was gobsmacked! I thought they were full time. I wish I could get away with three hours a day!!!!!'" Hull is looking for players just turn up for training and see how it goes  |
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| Quote: The Brother "Maybe if they spent more time on the training park with the team and put the extra hours in trying to rectify the problems instead of doing half days, works for Justin they train till 4 ish most days look at the difference'"
Thought they were doing 7am training starts just lately. A few weeks ago wasn't it you that was saying they were flogging the players in training and they were knackered? |
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