The problems are down to poor recruitment, lack of discipline and skimping on S&C and physio staff. It won't change while we sign players like cust and abdul who are regularly injured or simply lack the discipline to be a top class sportsman.

It's crucial that we recruit experienced S&C people for next year and get things right from the start of pre season

Think the comments from Cam Scott in particular are poor and tone deaf

Scott's gone to a club with a tiny ganbase compared to ours so he won't need to worry about what fans think

A new head physio coming in and hopefully some quality strength and conditioning coaches too. As others have said, it's imperative the club gets this part right after the last few disastrous seasons.

My experience of forums is whilst it’s their prerogative fans are unbelievably critical when not knowing many of the facts. I can’t believe this doesn’t impact on the players. However it’s human nature and being at Wakefield will be no different. Thankfully there is less drama surrounding Trueman and he’ll be back. All this seasons experIences will be for the benefit of the club in years to come

Poor comments by Scott, happens at every clubs, but obviously more so when clubs are struggling, some fans go over the top, but they shouldn't be on social media if they let comments from fans get to them.

Weird comments by Grix though, saying Trueman had a different injury and will be out for the season.

I think cam Scott has turned into a bit of a baby in recent times.
Took to social media to comment about what people were saying about his 'salary' and reason for going to Wakey and now this...he sounds very disgruntled,.some very unprofessional posts. They sort of came out of nowhere, as I don't remember him making any others comments previous to all these .

Strange how Grix saying he is done for the season and Truman saying he isn't ....

We've been living in the social media age for what 15 years now, so the players know the score when deciding to have a career in the public eye.

Yes there are boundaries such as contacting them directly, shouting at them in the street etc but criticism comes with the job, its not different to say a music act releasing a poor quality song or album and getting bad reviews.

On salaries there will always be speculation particularly in a salary cap sport where budget management is key. Footballers even get their wages broken down by day, hour and minute by the media as theres huge sums involved and it generates comments.

Also branding an entire fan base toxic over some social media comments seems harsh when the Internet is not exactly not known as a bastion of moderation and reasoned debate.

Indeed, worth pointing out there were still some clapping the team off the field on Saturday despite another heavy defeat (I went for the leave silently right on the hooter approach) its not like all 10k are insulting them

Plus, some of us fans donated to Cam Scott for his sponsored bike ride at the end of last season. Very toxic

His comment probably says more about Cam Scott himself, when as you say he's branded an entire fan base despite the majority backing and supporting the players including him.
Very poor comment and a very uneducated comment, perhaps he'd like to expand on his comment and as to what evidence he has to back up his view of an entire fanbase being toxic.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this thread has become a parody of this last week

you mean the 7500
never 10000 in the ground

It’s a moanathon.

The abuse he and Trueman had were more likely from anonymous posters. Like folk do on here posting behind a username.every sports club has abusive idiots.
Its his opinion, he’s left the club and no doubt he felt the abuse personally.

Any new on Trueman?

Signed for Wakefield.

Haven’t read his comment but I imagine he’s not referring to every single fan. It must be frustrating for him when inaccuracies about his wages and reasons for leaving are stated on social media. Fans can be a 14th man on the pitch but equally can affect a players confidence. I am always impressed by Wakefield fans whose team seem often to reflect the their good spirit. I think a lot of Hull fans are objective and wish the best for players. Some comments I see which are unnecessarily hypercritical imo come from sources who seem to have the answer to everything and little access to fact. Perhaps Scott is referring to these

Hope its accurate, I was all for keeping him if we dudbt sign Lam, but think it's best for all parties if he moves on, hope for some more luck at his new club.

Harvey Barron said this in todays HDM

[i"I felt a lot of stick from the fan base on Twitter and stuff like that"[/i

Having a pop at a young kid making his way in the game lacking confidence is pathetic.

Happens to most players who go through a bad few games in every sport, particularly at struggling clubs. Barron has the right attitude, just crack on and try and prove people wrong.

With the injuries stacking up for Trueman, you'd have to ask why would Wakefield be interested in signing him now.

Scenarios like the above are one of the more disquieting aspects of the modern world.

There's always been supporters voicing an opinion towards players (i.e. slagging them off) particularly when a team aren't doing very well, but 30/40 years ago those opinions were largely confined to people sounding off to their mates in the pub on a Saturday/Sunday night. Within a few minutes those opinions, however vociferous, had disappeared into the wind, never to be heard again!

Now, of course, we have the joys of social media, where people ranting and blowing off steam (whether justly or unjustly) is not only recorded and available to view but, more importantly, can reach an audience way beyond a drunken few listening in the boozer! Everything on social media has a habit of appearing amplified, made worse by the ability for it to happen behind the mask of anonymity. These past ten days (post-Southport) have seen the ramifications of unregulated opinion in a way unimaginable in the past.

Communication is a wonderful thing, the basis of any true democracy, but there are times when the new modern media (in all its forms) can bring out the very worst traits in human behaviour in a way which does not reflect well on all of us as an (allegedly) civilised society. As I said earlier, people have always had opinions, sometimes very forceful opinions, but it is the way those opinions have become disseminated that separates the present from the past.

Powell has refused to comment on rumours linking Trueman to Wakefield other than to say he's a great player.

Nailed on then