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| Quote: Jake the Peg "The players now know that no matter how bad they play they won't be dropped'"
Is that because the squad is getting thinner by the day...
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "The players now know that no matter how bad they play they won't be dropped'"
In fairness, how many players do we have that are fit and full time? Cunningham, Hadley, Nicklas and Briscoe? Any others?
In an ideal world more players would have dropped out, but our squad isn't actually that deep so options are limited.
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| Disappointed not to see Green & Crooks recalled to the side .
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| Quote: B0NES "Disappointed not to see Green & Crooks recalled to the side .'"
Injured?
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| Quote: Sheldon "Injured?'"
Looks that way .
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| Quote: Kosh "You'd have to ask PG. But my guess would be a combination of frustration and a hope that some players would be back and give him more options. And technically he will have a different 17 playing on Friday - just not as much different as we might have hoped.
For me the bigger test will be how he rings the changes if players continue to under-perform over a number of games rather than a one-off fiasco performance. Assuming we have players available to come in, of course. It seems a long time since we had a squad that really appeared to be picked on performance alone.'"
"One off"???
It's been happening for years!!
Between 5 and 8 of that team have been involved in similarly unacceptable performances over the last 4 years. They are the only common denominator left as the coaches , owners , physios etc have all changed. If the threat is never applied there is no wonder that it just keeps happening. If the problem is that there's no one else then surely regardless of frustration or hope a professional coach has got to keep it "in house" , avoid making public empty threats and think of a way to get more out of those that underperformed?
At the moment we are way too soft on every front and some backsides need kicking. I hope privately that's what's been done regardless of the public indications that everything is fine.
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| Quote: B0NES "Disappointed not to see Green & Crooks recalled to the side .'"
You want injured players recalled to the side?
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| Quote: ChrisH ""One off"???
It's been happening for years!!
Between 5 and 8 of that team have been involved in similarly unacceptable performances over the last 4 years. They are the only common denominator left as the coaches , owners , physios etc have all changed. If the threat is never applied there is no wonder that it just keeps happening. If the problem is that there's no one else then surely regardless of frustration or hope a professional coach has got to keep it "in house" , avoid making public empty threats and think of a way to get more out of those that underperformed?
At the moment we are way too soft on every front and some backsides need kicking. I hope privately that's what's been done regardless of the public indications that everything is fine.'"
PG hasn't been here for 'years'. He's been here a season and a bit. I imagine he is, quite rightly, basing his assessment of the players on what they've done under him rather than what may have happened under a different coach and regime.
There have been no public indications that everything is 'fine'. Pretty much every talk that Gentle gives puts emphasis on how much work remains to be done.
I'd have liked to have seen more players replaced after last week. But availability of replacements limits things a bit and we as fans don't see how players are showing up in training. Gentle's job is to put out what he considers to be the best side he can each week, not leave players out just to make a point - no matter how much we fans might like him to do so.
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| Quote: Kosh "Quote: Kosh ""One off"???
It's been happening for years!!
Between 5 and 8 of that team have been involved in similarly unacceptable performances over the last 4 years. They are the only common denominator left as the coaches , owners , physios etc have all changed. If the threat is never applied there is no wonder that it just keeps happening. If the problem is that there's no one else then surely regardless of frustration or hope a professional coach has got to keep it "in house" , avoid making public empty threats and think of a way to get more out of those that underperformed?
At the moment we are way too soft on every front and some backsides need kicking. I hope privately that's what's been done regardless of the public indications that everything is fine.'"
PG hasn't been here for 'years'. He's been here a season and a bit. I imagine he is, quite rightly, basing his assessment of the players on what they've done under him rather than what may have happened under a different coach and regime.
There have been no public indications that everything is 'fine'. Pretty much every talk that Gentle gives puts emphasis on how much work remains to be done.
I'd have liked to have seen more players replaced after last week. But availability of replacements limits things a bit and we as fans don't see how players are showing up in training. Gentle's job is to put out what he considers to be the best side he can each week, not leave players out just to make a point - no matter how much we fans might like him to do so.'"
I agree with this point, but it's something Gentle may wish to consider before he gives his post-match press conference.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I agree with this point, but it's something Gentle may wish to consider before he gives his post-match press conference.'"
Having seen the press conference I think he just lost his rag a bit. Not in a ranting and desk-thumping style but I've never seen him so obviously hacked off and struggling not to slag off the players in public. I'll forgive him the slip of the tongue/pen this once given the extreme provocation. If I'd have been in his place the fallout would have been a lot worse.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I agree with this point, but it's something Gentle may wish to consider before he gives his post-match press conference.'"
Gentle has admitted he possibly overreacted immediately after Widnes. He probably did as well but he was saying what most of the fans were saying. Whilst he has to keep a level head in his job it's refreshing to see how much it means to him IMO.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Quote: Staffs FC "I agree with this point, but it's something Gentle may wish to consider before he gives his post-match press conference.'"
Gentle has admitted he possibly overreacted immediately after Widnes. He probably did as well but he was saying what most of the fans were saying. Whilst he has to keep a level head in his job it's refreshing to see how much it means to him IMO.'"
Didn't see that bit. Hopefully he'll learn from it, because all sweeping statements like that do is leave him open to (largely unwarranted) criticism.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Didn't see that bit. Hopefully he'll learn from it, because all sweeping statements like that do is leave him open to (largely unwarranted) criticism.'"
Agreed - it was near the bottom of this ..
rlhttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-FC-things-right-Castleford-says-Gentle/story-18354046-detail/story.html#axzz2KRf8rSairl
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| Quote: Kosh "You want injured players recalled to the side?'"
No , I want players who are on "form" recalled to the side , If here injured then fair do's but it seems strange that one of the two players nearly made last weeks shambolic side but is still not available this week .
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| Quote: B0NES "No , I want players who are on "form" recalled to the side , If here injured then fair do's but it seems strange that one of the two players nearly made last weeks shambolic side but is still not available this week .'"
The official line is that both are unfit. I don't see any logical reason to question that. Unless you think we're being lied to?
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