Fc Voices did indeed attend a roadshow where a section of the proposed terracing was displayed. It is not a question of open terracing with crush barriers as was the traditional lay out but a sort of caged construction where each row is made up of tip up seats on a high frame which acts as a Crush barrier for the folks in the row behind. It would work well for those who wanted to stand and predominently be for them because those who wanted to sit would either have their view block by the bloke standing in front or would have to watch through the mesh of the barrier in front of them.

having watched the progress of the idea closely as Cod'ead says it appears that this government don't have that much appetite for the issue and are probably put off somewhat by the recent Hillsboro anniversary and revelations. However it would work and activists are pressing for a trial sanctioned by Government, at Villa.

If the legislation was passed then it would be passd onto local licencing authorities and the individual Clubs to make the final decision, so it is still some way off. The last I heard it was being talked about for the South stand rather than the East however and as I say in the end if it became law then the Council would not only have to agree to it as owner of the Stadium but also as licencing authority for sportsgrounds and places of public entertainment.

and also fund the developments, for that reason alone it will not happen any time soon, cutbacks and infrastructure spending on a facility used by a minority of the voters don't mix.

Is this anything more than a few people saying "it was better in my day"?

What is the actual goal of this?

Does anyone know of a single person who has stopped supporting their team because they can no longer stand up?

I reckon I could find a couple of thousand who have STARTED supporting the team because of seating.

Sitting everytime for me

Rovers are going to install drool trays and flavoured windows before the consider safe standing

Putting in a standing area is going back to the 1970's. maybe we need to reintroduce stray dogs on the pitch, like used to happen in the 'good old days'.

Will I be allowed to p*ss at the back of the stand a la Threepenny in the good old days?

COMPLETELY agree, going back to stands would be a complete backwards step and definitely falls in the nostalgia camp

Now that definitely falls into the nostalgia camp!

I don't know anyone whose stopped, but I know plenty of people, including me who much prefer to stand up whilst watching sport. The FSF brought some samples of the standing that would be installed and it's basically a seat with a crash barrier in front of it, like they have in Germany.

Think you get three standing spaces to two seats. So if applied to parts of the KC, we could easily get up the capacity over 30,000. It wouldn't affect FC oher than those who wish to stand at the games again, but may be useful for City if they got promoted back to the Premiership and future RL Internationals.

I've spoken to someone at City who has looked closely into it and he said to me the capacity at the KC would barely change if they did introduce them, I think it would increase by something like 1500 if the did come in.

It's a while off yet anyway I'd think.

It wouldn't at all they have looked at that issue and it is not the case. It would need considerable structural changes to address more peole being in there because of the need to increase the width of exit isles and steps, the number of toilets and turnstiles and even eating facilities and the disabled seats to capacity ratio would have to rise all of which would mean considerable structural alterations, which the Council would not be keen on carrying out in the present climate.