I doubt there would be a coach in SL (or world rugby) who would sign hall in preference to briscoe

A: on these boards when someone calls you pal it's because their not your mate
B: I made reference to hull fans not you personally
C: It wouldn't matter if I was mystic meg as there are no psychics just charlatans.

I've just been honest pal but you keep kidding yourself.

Maybe so

There ya go! What tool this fella is.

I will give you that one and offer my apologies....for the record the same guy put a thread up yesterday claiming he was booking his Wembley tickets, I think he is on heroin..

However you will agree that most on the thread did not show this kind of arrogance. We accepted we are cr@p several years ago, Friday will be interesting as now you lot are cr@p as well.

I would agree with that. I would say Leeds have the talent to be in the mix for trophies but letting cross and burgess go and having Amor on loan is another massive fail(who should have played as people like Kirke getting a game infront of them is a joke).

I think you carry a few more than us who are not fit to wear the shirt but we both have em and obviously the fooking shocking coaching which is the real problem.

I think agar and mac are both good people with good intentions but are just not up to the task

the major difference between L**ds and FC is the position of Gary as a paid employee, there is no way the BOD of L**ds will accept mediocrity for as long as the FC BOD appear happy to.

leeds don't have the talent any more. You're in the same position we've been in for a few years now - convincing ourselves that past playing achievements are an indicator of current ability. leeds have failed to re-invent their ageing squad in the same way saints have and are a long way behind wire and wigan in ability terms. The only positive in the current era is that the salary cap allows a team to re-invent itself in a relatively short space of time but without vision at boardroom level and ability in the coaching team it's not goingto happen. Hull have neither, leeds potentially have the vision but I'm not certain your focus is currently on playing matters.

One thing is for certain, the chances of either club picking up a trophy this year is the square root of zilch

I cannot arge with this.
I thought we would lose on Friday and win this week. I now think we will get bummed live on the BBC.

I'm hearing you. We have lost our way for sure. But Leeds do have brilliant kids coming through again who will hit the first team in the next season or two. With ablett, delaney, hall, Watkins, bjb, hardacker, mcshane and Clarkson already playing plus the new kids the future looks good. but unlike saints who you rightly point out have a coach who has got it happening with those kids right now Leeds need a coach to bring the team together lead by McGuire, burrow, Bailey and sinfield who still have plenty of rugby in em.

I don't know what hull have coming through but with it been an rl hot bed it should be as good as anyone. I think coaching is still the main issue which I'm sure nobody will be arguing against

Never a truer word said pal. The current Leeds status quo typifies the need for a top quality proven coach to be installed at the top. Although it could be argued that the strength in depth which McClennan and Smith had to work with is not quite there for McDermott. Or is that just a perception which has been caused simply because of the differences is coaching quality between them?