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| There really should be a 3rd option as although i find the play-offs very entertaining however i think the fact we decide the "True Champions" on a knockout basis is wrong. Wigan for me are the best team this season regardless what happens in the play-offs. They have proved this over 27 league games for me.
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| Quote: hullbg "There really should be a 3rd option as although i find the play-offs very entertaining however i think the fact we decide the "True Champions" on a knockout basis is wrong. Wigan for me are the best team this season regardless what happens in the play-offs. They have proved this over 27 league games for me.'"
The SL play offs are really a copy of the Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, NBA Finals & MLB World Series, no one remembers who won the leagues just the Championship winners.
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| I think it was a good decision to revert back to a play-off system and the traditional way of determining the champions.
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| Quote: Chris71 "The SL play offs are really a copy of the Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, NBA Finals & MLB World Series, no one remembers who won the leagues just the Championship winners.'"
I'd disagree. The NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB all need a play off format to decide a true champion because all of those sports are split into a minimum of 6 division and teams do not get to play every team the same amount of times in their respective sports each season like they do in RL (other than the magic weekend.
Like most things, we nabbed the play off idea straight from Oz and I personally love it. Without the play offs, our season would have been over in May, like most other clubs.
If we had simply been playing Leeds this past weekend to finish 4th without any added play off position incentive, would the game have been played at the same tempo? Would the atmosphere have been the same? Would there of been a smaller crowd?
The play off's give almost every club something to play for for most of the season, even as soon ago as June, i would imagine that 11 of the 14 clubs seriously felt that they could make the play off's, first past the post would kill most teams season after about 6 games.
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| If we didn't have play-offs the season would be over now, unless we went back to the old style premiership, which was and would be the least important of the three available trophies.
In a league where there is no relegation, the play-off system keeps the regular season alive right until the end, as was the case last weekend with Saints and Wire battling for 2nd place, us and Leeds for 4th, Crusaders and Cas for 8th.
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| The play offs have given a big boost to the sport and as has aready been posted, gives more clubs something to play for towards the end of the season.
However having 8 teams in the play offs from a 14 team league is too many. Take last season, Catalans finished 8th (the bottom half of the league) and lost more games than they won, however they got within one game - eight points in fact - of the Grand Final.
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| I put No my reason A team that wins more games over the season is the League
Champions ..Then there should be another trophy that teams play for ..What if a team that finished top and only lost 2 games all season ..What if Wigan get beat in the first 2 game of the play offs ..How can fans say Wigan are not League Champions when they finished in first place.. Wigan was the best team over 27 rounds it doesn't happen in Football
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| a fantastic format.nothing decided till the last game of the season.i remember the days of wigan winning everything and the league championship on its way to wigan mid season them days are over and good riddance i say!!.although its a great achievement winning the league leaders shield the ultimate has to be the grand final..
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| Chicos Nose wrote
Quote: "Like most things, we nabbed the play off idea straight from Oz and I personally love it. Without the play offs, our season would have been over in May, like most other clubs. ]'" ]
In fact end of season play offs in our league go back a long long way. In the 1960s the top 16 clubs played off in a simple 1 x 16, 2 v 15 etc format. In 1965 Halifax finished in seventh place but were crowned champions after beating first placed St Helens in the Championship Final.
However I agree with those who support the new format. As mentioned on the SL Show, going into the weekend's fixtures only Wigan and Rovers were guaranteed to finish in their current places of first and seventh respectively.
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| Quote: kt170496 "I put No my reason A team that wins more games over the season is the League
Champions ..Then there should be another trophy that teams play for ..What if a team that finished top and only lost 2 games all season ..What if Wigan get beat in the first 2 game of the play offs ..How can fans say Wigan are not League Champions when they finished in first place.. Wigan was the best team over 27 rounds it doesn't happen in Football'"
Because you only become super league champions by winning the grand final, not finishing top of what is effectivly a qualifying competition.
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| Quote: Hull FC since 50s "Chicos Nose wrote
In fact end of season play offs in our league go back a long long way. In the 1960s the top 16 clubs played off in a simple 1 x 16, 2 v 15 etc format. In 1965 Halifax finished in seventh place but were crowned champions after beating first placed St Helens in the Championship Final.
However I agree with those who support the new format. As mentioned on the SL Show, going into the weekend's fixtures only Wigan and Rovers were guaranteed to finish in their current places of first and seventh respectively.'"
Indeed they do.
I should have put that we nabbed the idea for the format of the play offs once we re-introduced them to our game.
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| good thing, but would rather go back to top 5 or 6
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| Quote: number 6 "good thing, but would rather go back to top 5 or 6'"
Me too. Top 6 with the either 1 v 2 Grand Final playoff (I used to love them games) or team who wins league goes straight to OT and 2-6 battle it our for the other place.
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| Quote: kt170496 "I put No my reason A team that wins more games over the season is the League
Champions ..Then there should be another trophy that teams play for ..What if a team that finished top and only lost 2 games all season ..What if Wigan get beat in the first 2 game of the play offs ..How can fans say Wigan are not League Champions when they finished in first place.. Wigan was the best team over 27 rounds [iit doesn't happen in Football[/i'"
For me then an excellent reason to have it in Rugby League!!
The format may not be perfect but all teams know exactly what it is at the outset and it has provided the most exciting SL games each year since it's introduction as well as keeping the table meaningful for more teams for longer. Ultimately it's entertainment , drama and uncertainty that will get bums on seats and play off rugby provides it.
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