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Quote: jordanp "I can see why people think we will really struggle next season, It seems we are relying on Horne and Long to stay fit, but even if they did to be honest I'm not sure we will do well if they do, Horne was poor most games he played in my opinion only the first 20 of Wigan away stands out for me, and although he offered a bit of direction Longs kicking game was erratic, and he didn't take the line on as often as he did for Saints, this is what he was known for. Top 6 with our sqaud would be a very good season.'"


Horne played very well until he got injured, back to back motms at home early in the season along with his Wigan display.

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Quote: VerbalKint "How many times do you think we will start with that side? probably be able to count in on one hand like this season, Long another year older, even more prone to injuries, how many games did Fitz and Shrek miss?? plenty. On paper agree that looks a half decent side, but we all know it wont happen. Where already look like were going to be missing Radders for the start of the season, so that team is blown out the water straight away.'"



We won't know until the season starts but a new prop would solve the Radford issue even though he has said he will be fit for the first game.

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Quote: Superbowl Scott "Do you think we'll get better than 6th with only 1 signing ? Hame at prop is a massive worry, any prop with any sort of movement he grabs at fresh air. Yeaman hasnt done anything for the last couple of years. We all know deep down that Horne and Long will play half a season max. I dont even wanna mention Radford and Washbrook.'"


I don't know who will get injured and who won't, we can only guess. With a halfback coming in then we would have cover for Horne/Long plus Nicklas and the likes of Washy/Berro/Turner.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "
You might scrape a few more games out of Long and Horne this season. As it stands now with the squad you have, I really think you will struggle to make the top 8.'"


You probably though you would finish higher than us last season and would not lose both derby games in SL but you would have been wrong.

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Quote: PAUL M "

Tansey; Can be a game breaker for either side, too inconsistent and a liability on and off the pitch
Sharpe; Looks to be a good signing, but until he's put some time on the pitch in our team I'm as yet undecided
Berro; Will go well if we keep him at centre and don't go moving him from one position to another
Yeaman; Last chance saloon for me, too inconsistent and certainly not a team player
Briscoe; Say no more
Horne; Way, way past his best. Injuries and illness have taken their toll, should be cover at best (no room for sentimentality in professional sport - well not in successful teams anyway
Long; Signed 5 years too late, nothing more than a panic buy and will be lucky to start more than 1/2 of our games next season. Will have the odd great game, but only when he's up for it i.e. St Helens
Hame; Had his best games for us last season out wide in the second row, too volatile to be in the front row, especially with a poor/non-existant tackling technique, would rather have Dowes there to be honest
Houghton; Class act, but will need spelling, we looked well off the pace last season when Danny wasn't on the pitch and I fear any replacement/stand in (Washbrook) will make us look even more laborious than we were
Shrek; Top man
Tickle; Had a great season, more again please
Fitz; Again a top class player, although I would like to see him at loose man and show a bit of leadership as he did last year rather than lost somewhere in the second row
Whiting; Great utility player and a massive servant to this club, just not convinced that loose is the best use of his obvious talents

Washbrook (Hk); I like Danny Washbrook, but I think he has suffered as many of our youngsters tend to do over the last few seasons as he is pushed from one position to another. personally i would prefer to see him given an extended run at loose rather than trying to fit him in as a back up hooker
Radford (Pr); Been a good servant, but like Yak, it was time to say thanks and adios
Moa (Pr); One project that has worked, but needs to be given longer on the field, fitness is still a worry
Manu (Sr); No disagreement from me on this, I've always felt he was better suited to coming on later as a strike player

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The backbone of the side looks good, but a couple of injuries in key positions will see us revert to the type of rugby we've been forced to watch over the last 4 seasons.

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Quote: PAUL M "You probably though you would finish higher than us last season

and would not lose both derby games in SL but you would have been wrong.'"


Erm........ we did icon_wink.gif

I never expected that like.

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Quote: Wytchfynder General "The backbone of the side looks good, but a couple of injuries in key positions will see us revert to the type of rugby we've been forced to watch over the last 4 seasons.'"


tell us summat we don't already know! IMO this was no different at the beginning of 2010

take out the half backs and we have to shuffle positions making us hell of a lot less effective as a team

on a different note, i think we should either play washbrook at LF every week or release him. if whiting plays there then i'll be happy also, but i just wish agar would choose a ball-player LF and not a prop. if washbrook doens't play LF then i really don't see the point in keeping him

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Erm........ we did

Ah yes well... lets not have that debate again, if you did then you have never finished top 4 in SL icon_smile.gif

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I don't personally see why we keep stressing the Long/Horne partnership. We are talking about two players who are way past their best and even if they were to stay fit for even half the season, which won't happen, they would still be nothing more than an above average combo.

Long will have great games and go missing in others (the last derby) and Horne shouldn't be anywhere near a 1st choice pivot for a side that wants to win silverware.

Add that to the fact that we might be starting 2011 with the fantastic Radford/Dowes wrecking-ball combo and a squad that still relies on players like Yeaman and Washbrook in the starting 17. I don't even want to mention our so-called coach who just isn't fit for purpose.

I don't see anything more than a 7th/8th battle with Cas, Salford, Bradford etc. which, for a club of our size, is embarrassing.

Too many people on here are happy with mediocrity as long as it's black and white !

But hey, maybe we'll make the top 8 !!! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Erm........ we did
So where did you finish in 2009 again ?? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Erm........ we did No you never,the final league table says so.Play offs are play offs and it should be just that. icon_wink.gif

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Can somebody tell me what a huge difference Yak and Hall gave to us this season, and what huge effect it will have on our coming season not having those two?

Otherwise, it is the same side which came 20 minutes away from finishing 4th in the league, along with an exciting winger and most probably more half back cover which will look to solve any half back problems.

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Quote: thehullwhitestar "I don't personally see why we keep stressing the Long/Horne partnership. We are talking about two players who are way past their best and even if they were to stay fit for even half the season, which won't happen, they would still be nothing more than an above average combo.

Long will have great games and go missing in others (the last derby) and Horne shouldn't be anywhere near a 1st choice pivot for a side that wants to win silverware.

Add that to the fact that we might be starting 2011 with the fantastic Radford/Dowes wrecking-ball combo and a squad that still relies on players like Yeaman and Washbrook in the starting 17. I don't even want to mention our so-called coach who just isn't fit for purpose.

I don't see anything more than a 7th/8th battle with Cas, Salford, Bradford etc. which, for a club of our size, is embarrassing.

Too many people on here are happy with mediocrity as long as it's black and white !

But hey, maybe we'll make the top 8 !!!
Include beating Rovers and you've nailed exactly what 95% of the Hull FC fans want.

Mediocrity is a word I've been using for Hull FC and the fan base for years. 1 cup/final appearance every 10 years and the club/fans are happy. Not this fan though, we need to strive to be the best which means paying top dollar for a number 1 coach. It starts at the top and filters down. I'd settle for a few seasons of top 8 finish if a top coach was building a side to challenge for honours - but it wont happen.

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Quote: GM1 "1 cup/final appearance every 10 years and the club/fans are happy.'"


Or 3 in the past 5.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Can somebody tell me what a huge difference Yak and Hall gave to us this season, and what huge effect it will have on our coming season not having those two?

Otherwise, it is the same side which came 20 minutes away from finishing 4th in the league, along with an exciting winger and most probably more half back cover which will look to solve any half back problems.'"



It's not losing Yak and Hall that's the problem, it's that we have stood still while others have strenghed, I doubt we will bring in another halfback which should be our number one priority and I think the likes of Leeds, Hudds and possibly Rovers will have better seasons this time around.

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