[quote="K-Diddy":mqm91mj0]Whenever we get a new coach we want them to make the tough decisions & get rid of the players not up to scratch. Until they do & we don’t agree with them then it’s a mistake by the club. If Carty & Myler are happy for Staveley to leave then we’ve got to trust their judgement.[/quote:mqm91mj0] Trust in recruitment and retention needs to be earnt and Myler isn't there yet. Messed up with Abdul, leaving us short in the halfback.

[url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc-release-nick-staveley-9932143:3revchpj]Definitely gone[/url:3revchpj], hopefully the club have got this one right, only time will tell. Best of luck to him.

[quote="Dave K.":158daoar][quote="K-Diddy":158daoar]Whenever we get a new coach we want them to make the tough decisions & get rid of the players not up to scratch. Until they do & we don’t agree with them then it’s a mistake by the club. If Carty & Myler are happy for Staveley to leave then we’ve got to trust their judgement.[/quote:158daoar] Trust in recruitment and retention needs to be earnt and Myler isn't there yet. Messed up with Abdul, leaving us short in the halfback.[/quote:158daoar] To be fair Dave, I don't think saying Myler messed up the Abdull signing is fair comment, we signed a player that has the ability but lacks the fitness and from what I understand his fitness was a key factor on the deal signed. So in this instance he probably did the right thing having certain stipulations. Lets not forget the market isn't exactly flush with HB's and we weren't exactly an attractive proposition at the time of signing Abdull which was pre takeover and to be fair we still aren't until we show improvement this season. Myler to give him some credit has moved out some of the players that were poor performing, had poor attitudes, questionable fitness history which we all wanted to see. We now seem a more professional outfit and without the sentimental millstone we had round our necks for years.

The 'down the pecking order' narrative isn't one I buy either, out of him Kirby and Jebson he was by far the most ready of the 3 young SR's. Leaves us with what id class as three 'natural' first team SR's in Lane, Cartwright and Holmes, of which Holmes is struggling with a knee issue and Cartwright seems to pick up niggly injuries frequently.

It is a really odd one. The way he is built, perhaps doesn't lend itself to this injury not repeating itself? Or, it could be what Myler was alluding to last week, the December 1st deadline for players beginning talks, and he was going to leave at the end of the year, so we thought we would release him a year early.

Club have confirmed it. Think this might come back to bite us. Not surprisingly a nothing statement. Leaves us very short in the backrow.

Disappointed as thought he had something about him . But there's always things behind closed doors which we are not aware of......Clearly the club have decided he can go for whatever reason........We have been banging the drum for years we are to soft on recruitment so it appears now we are being more ruthless....Maybe he wanted away ?.....So we've done the business early ?......We got to trust the process of the new regime

Well that’s two gone who obviously can’t get up to the desired standards of fitness, just got to back Cartwrights judgement. 11 plus months on from an ACL and still not back fit should be 6-9 months, maybe question marks on his desire to get fit.

Do find it interesting that 2 of the 'larger' players have been let go