All good points. Not aware of rumours about players attitude etc but my main hope would be to have 2 half backs playing every week

At this point I can't see us challenging for trophies. I do think we'll improve on this season (I think that's impossible not to)
If we can keep Asiata on the field, then we'll be competitive, and maybe in with a shout of pushing for a sixth spot at the back end of the season.

We have a good balance of youth and experience in our squad for next season and some proper players in their proper positions (notably in the halves) that will improve us.

My hope is for the young homegrown talent we have to be demanding a place in the team from performances. If that happens, then that youthful energy alongside some experienced heads, should see us making strides to become a decent team again.

So while everyone is hoping we sign another centre, I'm hoping Davy Litten is playing well enough in there that he is the centre we want.

But right now, I don't think we have a pack of forwards or a set of backs that are gonna be bringing any trophies home.

Litten really needs to bulk up, he is very slight for a centre.

Definitely. There is a good player in there. But needs a run at centre and be consistent. Last year was pushed of the tackle far to easy. A good off season and bulk up and we may have a decent centre on our hands

He doesn't have much pace anyway, bulking up will slow him down further potentially

Believe one of the key focuses of pre season is improving players acceleration (and overall fitness of course).

Have seen him a few times in space.Hes certainly quicker than any centres we've have the last year or so. But at the weight he is now he's just not big enough. Saying that if he bulks up a bit there's no reason he will slow down. All ifs and buts ATM.

Never a centre
Another one who is bigged up only to end up in the lower divisions like several others.
We have two wings who are likely to make regular S/L players,
The jury is out on the rest

Never going to get in front of the two dynamic centres we have in Hardaker and Chamberlain

Think Litten would be the worst centre in the league. Just another overhyped Hull lad.

Hull Live have done some data analysis on the squad https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... mp-9611364 What stands out for me is there's now only Sao, Lane and Fash who were there for the relatively successful 2020 season (and those 3 have come in for criticism) so there's barely anyone in the squad who can remember winning 2 or 3 games in the row, unless Briscoe has a great memory from 2012/2013! Shows the scale of the task Cartwright has with the culture

Hull Live have done some data analysis on the squad https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... mp-9611364 What stands out for me is there's now only Sao, Lane and Fash who were there for the relatively successful 2020 season (and those 3 have come in for criticism) so there's barely anyone in the squad who can remember winning 2 or 3 games in the row, unless Briscoe has a great memory from 2012/2013! Shows the scale of the task Cartwright has with the culture

fc callum - litten is only a kid that’s played in a well beaten team. His cousin jez was written off as not good enough or big enough and now look at him.
Davy has got fresh people on board to bring him on. Don’t write him off yet.
Ullfc -
Puzzled by your above post.
The club are bringing in around 9 or more new players. They have all come from winning and competitive cultures.
Add Martin and Barron Moy who clearly showed they were keen to get stuck in.
That’s almost a full team.
So really don’t see your point.
Yes there’s a lot of hard work ahead but Leigh and kr have shown it can be done.

Anyway, on another positive note I renewed my pass today.
Looking forward to next season , even more so once Wigan beat those pesky dobbins.

My point was almost all the squad have been at the club less than 3 years, in those years we've been dreadful so there's barely anyone who knows what it's like being at a sucessful club anymore. That will be a challenge for Cartwright.

Only Asiata, Hardaker and Holmes have seen sucess recently the rest are coming from clubs missing the playoffs.

Sorry I’m glass half full type.
Rapana, sezer , cust, briscoe , chamberlain and the much maligned Abdul have all experienced finals and play off games. Get them fit and well conditioned, no reason why the team can’t go well next season.
SL standard has been poor apart from Wigan, Wire and kr.

if another 3 or 4 clubs and i expect st helens to be one of them could join the party next year you would have a really competitive league and not as predictable as it has been for most of the season,it can be done, would be more exiting being the best team on the day rather than knowing youll win or lose